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From: bookmarch_at_aol.com
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 16:21:45 -0500 (EST)
i look forward to a longer discussion of Locomotive, I have not read Children; of course every source inherently reflects the POV of its creator -- that is historiography 101; a primary source from an Cherokee POV reflects the world view of that individual and his/her culture, time, place, just as a primary source from a European, Protestant POV from the same period will reflect that individual and his/her culture time, place. In a way "bias" is the wrong term -- worldview is better. Then our training as researchers comes in as we compare, contrast, read secondary sources which reflect the research of other scholars, and attempt to evaluate all of this evidence. I do not in any sense think research, knowledge is free from POV, but I do think there is a process of serious study, comparison, reflection that we agree to abide by -- I am certain that Lord Jeffrey Amherst used smallpox blankets because historians using this process have proven it. The guiding principle must be fairness -- honesty, being willing to find out we were wrong. So long as we all do that, we have a path to understanding.
Marc
-----Original Message----- From: Debbie Reese <dreese.nambe_at_gmail.com> To: CCBC-Net Network <ccbc-net_at_lists.wisc.edu> Sent: Sat, Feb 22, 2014 3:38 pm Subject: Re:[ccbc-net] By, For, About
Actually, Mark, I've had nonfiction in mind, too, because the nonfiction about American Indians on most library shelves is especially troubling. So much of what is out there puts us firmly in the past.
Some of it is sloppy, too. A good case in point is a book that got lot of twitter-land play last month: Children of the Tipi, by Michael O. Fitzgerald. In it, the sloppyness was in mixing of different tribal nations on a single page, with no information provided to point to the different nations BEING different. Details here: http://americanindiansinchildrensliterature.blogspot.com/2014/01/children-of-tipi-life-in-buffalo-days.html
And I have concerns about Floca's book, too. So I'd say that the issue of bias is not different from what I see in fiction. And, you suggest that research, evidence, and knowledge is free of bias, and it isn't. Sources have bias.
Debbie
__________________________________________________________ Debbie Reese, PhD Tribally enrolled: Nambe Pueblo
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Website: American Indians in Children's Literature
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Now: Studying for MLIS at San Jose State University Then: Assistant Professor in American Indian Studies, University of Illinois
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Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 16:21:45 -0500 (EST)
i look forward to a longer discussion of Locomotive, I have not read Children; of course every source inherently reflects the POV of its creator -- that is historiography 101; a primary source from an Cherokee POV reflects the world view of that individual and his/her culture, time, place, just as a primary source from a European, Protestant POV from the same period will reflect that individual and his/her culture time, place. In a way "bias" is the wrong term -- worldview is better. Then our training as researchers comes in as we compare, contrast, read secondary sources which reflect the research of other scholars, and attempt to evaluate all of this evidence. I do not in any sense think research, knowledge is free from POV, but I do think there is a process of serious study, comparison, reflection that we agree to abide by -- I am certain that Lord Jeffrey Amherst used smallpox blankets because historians using this process have proven it. The guiding principle must be fairness -- honesty, being willing to find out we were wrong. So long as we all do that, we have a path to understanding.
Marc
-----Original Message----- From: Debbie Reese <dreese.nambe_at_gmail.com> To: CCBC-Net Network <ccbc-net_at_lists.wisc.edu> Sent: Sat, Feb 22, 2014 3:38 pm Subject: Re:[ccbc-net] By, For, About
Actually, Mark, I've had nonfiction in mind, too, because the nonfiction about American Indians on most library shelves is especially troubling. So much of what is out there puts us firmly in the past.
Some of it is sloppy, too. A good case in point is a book that got lot of twitter-land play last month: Children of the Tipi, by Michael O. Fitzgerald. In it, the sloppyness was in mixing of different tribal nations on a single page, with no information provided to point to the different nations BEING different. Details here: http://americanindiansinchildrensliterature.blogspot.com/2014/01/children-of-tipi-life-in-buffalo-days.html
And I have concerns about Floca's book, too. So I'd say that the issue of bias is not different from what I see in fiction. And, you suggest that research, evidence, and knowledge is free of bias, and it isn't. Sources have bias.
Debbie
__________________________________________________________ Debbie Reese, PhD Tribally enrolled: Nambe Pueblo
Email: dreese.nambe_at_gmail.com
Website: American Indians in Children's Literature
_at_ http://americanindiansinchildrensliterature.net
Now: Studying for MLIS at San Jose State University Then: Assistant Professor in American Indian Studies, University of Illinois
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