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From: jeanne_at_theroadrunnerpress.com
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 15:19:24 -0600 (CST)
Think you got it just right Debbie as far as why the Snowmonsters was a wonderful moment in the story. It reminded me of the games the father in Life is Beautiful concocted to see his son through the horrors of the Holocaust...
And while I can see why people would ask ... trying to learn details and info of another culture so as not to ask ... I am glad you read it more like the Life is Beautiful tone. It seemed universal to me ... and, countered that misunderstanding that one people is polar opposite from another...
I think it is what the NY Public Library gals were talking about when they said the story -- despite being historic -- seemed fresh. Or so I'd like to think.
Jeanne The RoadRunner Press
-----Original Message----- From: "Debbie Reese" <dreese.nambe_at_gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 1:31pm To: "CCBC-Net Network" <ccbc-net_at_lists.wisc.edu> Subject: [ccbc-net] Snowmonsters
Thanks, Tim, for telling us about the text you got from someone who wanted to know if Snowmonsters are part of Choctaw traditional stories. When I read that part, I didn't take it as Choctaw. I knew it was the sort of clowning around that families do. Why did I know that? I'm not sure! I think the texted question itself speaks to the power of stereotypes. Steeped in a belief that we're really really different from other peoples means that people think that every single thing we do is part of ritual or tradition. We are different--I don't mean to collapse those very important differences--but Tim's imaginings and the imaginings some writers give us are in the realm of "the white man's Indian." The two are miles apart.
(Note: The White Man's Indian is by Robert Berkhofer.) Debbie
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Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 15:19:24 -0600 (CST)
Think you got it just right Debbie as far as why the Snowmonsters was a wonderful moment in the story. It reminded me of the games the father in Life is Beautiful concocted to see his son through the horrors of the Holocaust...
And while I can see why people would ask ... trying to learn details and info of another culture so as not to ask ... I am glad you read it more like the Life is Beautiful tone. It seemed universal to me ... and, countered that misunderstanding that one people is polar opposite from another...
I think it is what the NY Public Library gals were talking about when they said the story -- despite being historic -- seemed fresh. Or so I'd like to think.
Jeanne The RoadRunner Press
-----Original Message----- From: "Debbie Reese" <dreese.nambe_at_gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 1:31pm To: "CCBC-Net Network" <ccbc-net_at_lists.wisc.edu> Subject: [ccbc-net] Snowmonsters
Thanks, Tim, for telling us about the text you got from someone who wanted to know if Snowmonsters are part of Choctaw traditional stories. When I read that part, I didn't take it as Choctaw. I knew it was the sort of clowning around that families do. Why did I know that? I'm not sure! I think the texted question itself speaks to the power of stereotypes. Steeped in a belief that we're really really different from other peoples means that people think that every single thing we do is part of ritual or tradition. We are different--I don't mean to collapse those very important differences--but Tim's imaginings and the imaginings some writers give us are in the realm of "the white man's Indian." The two are miles apart.
(Note: The White Man's Indian is by Robert Berkhofer.) Debbie
__________________________________________________________ Debbie Reese, PhD Tribally enrolled: Nambe Pueblo Email: [mailto:dreese.nambe_at_gmail.com] dreese.nambe_at_gmail.com Website: American Indians in Children's Literature
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