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From: Martín Blasc <MartinB_at_wccls.org>
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 16:45:36 +0000
If we are going to consider the books written at that time (even before and later) with a historical view, no doubt that the view is going to be completely Eurocentric, which, in other words is ignorant and patronizing and in many cases, with a component of greed. Ms. Wilder is not “a reflection of the society in which she lived,” she is a reflection of her own people living in constant ignorance and with fear (a result of what Max Weber later called “The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism”). Her contact with American Indians is marked with her Eurocentric upbringing and not by a mix of both cultures. Yes, we have to understand the time and circumstances, but also be just and more concrete about the circumstances and the clash of cultures at the time.
Martín Blasco Outreach Librarian for Latino and Multicultural Services Washington County Cooperative Library Services 503-648-9785 x 3# martinb_at_wccls.org<mailto:martinb_at_wccls.org> www.facebook.org/bibliotecaswccls<http://www.facebook.org/bibliotecaswccls>
“Siempre imaginé que el Paraíso sería algún tipo de biblioteca”.
“I have always imagined that Paradise will be a kind of library.” Jorge Luis Borges
From: Norma Jean Sawicki [mailto:nsawicki_at_nyc.rr.com] Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 1:48 PM To: Debbie Reese Cc: CCBC-Net Network Subject: Re: [ccbc-net] How I Became A Ghost
Laura Ingalls Wilder was born in 1867, the first LIttle House book was published in 1932.
I have not been able to find Tim Tingle's birthdate but he began collecting his stories in the early 1990s.
Since writers are no more…that's right…no more, than a reflection of the society in which they live, it stands to reason the mindsets of these two writers would be dramatically different even if Mr. Tingle were not Native American….
There is no need to disparage Miss Wilder in order to admire and praise Mr. Tingle and his work. Norma Jean
On Feb 17, 2014, at 3:26 PM, Debbie Reese wrote:
Yes! Humor and matter of face storytelling are two wonderful facets of How I Became a Ghost.
One of the things that I noted right away is the opening for Chapter 1 where the setting is established as:
Choctaw Nation, Mississippi, 1830
The word Nation is vitally important. Its prominence there provides an entree to the Trail of Tears that frames it--not as 'primitive' Indians (like the ones shown in Little House)--but the Choctaw's as a political entity who'd been in diplomatic negotiations with the US government.
Other things that push back on the predominant image of primitive/roaming Indians of historical fiction are Isaac's mom calling to him from the back porch and the fact that they raise chickens and that they garden, too.
And, Isaac--a 10-year-old--knows about treaties and what they mean... That, too, is reality.
Debbie
__________________________________________________________ Debbie Reese, PhD Tribally enrolled: Nambe Pueblo
Email: dreese.nambe_at_gmail.com<mailto:dreese.nambe_at_gmail.com>
Website: American Indians in Children's Literature
_at_ http://americanindiansinchildrensliterature.net<http://americanindiansinchildrensliterature.net/>
Now: Studying for MLIS at San Jose State University Then: Assistant Professor in American Indian Studies, University of Illinois
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Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 16:45:36 +0000
If we are going to consider the books written at that time (even before and later) with a historical view, no doubt that the view is going to be completely Eurocentric, which, in other words is ignorant and patronizing and in many cases, with a component of greed. Ms. Wilder is not “a reflection of the society in which she lived,” she is a reflection of her own people living in constant ignorance and with fear (a result of what Max Weber later called “The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism”). Her contact with American Indians is marked with her Eurocentric upbringing and not by a mix of both cultures. Yes, we have to understand the time and circumstances, but also be just and more concrete about the circumstances and the clash of cultures at the time.
Martín Blasco Outreach Librarian for Latino and Multicultural Services Washington County Cooperative Library Services 503-648-9785 x 3# martinb_at_wccls.org<mailto:martinb_at_wccls.org> www.facebook.org/bibliotecaswccls<http://www.facebook.org/bibliotecaswccls>
“Siempre imaginé que el Paraíso sería algún tipo de biblioteca”.
“I have always imagined that Paradise will be a kind of library.” Jorge Luis Borges
From: Norma Jean Sawicki [mailto:nsawicki_at_nyc.rr.com] Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 1:48 PM To: Debbie Reese Cc: CCBC-Net Network Subject: Re: [ccbc-net] How I Became A Ghost
Laura Ingalls Wilder was born in 1867, the first LIttle House book was published in 1932.
I have not been able to find Tim Tingle's birthdate but he began collecting his stories in the early 1990s.
Since writers are no more…that's right…no more, than a reflection of the society in which they live, it stands to reason the mindsets of these two writers would be dramatically different even if Mr. Tingle were not Native American….
There is no need to disparage Miss Wilder in order to admire and praise Mr. Tingle and his work. Norma Jean
On Feb 17, 2014, at 3:26 PM, Debbie Reese wrote:
Yes! Humor and matter of face storytelling are two wonderful facets of How I Became a Ghost.
One of the things that I noted right away is the opening for Chapter 1 where the setting is established as:
Choctaw Nation, Mississippi, 1830
The word Nation is vitally important. Its prominence there provides an entree to the Trail of Tears that frames it--not as 'primitive' Indians (like the ones shown in Little House)--but the Choctaw's as a political entity who'd been in diplomatic negotiations with the US government.
Other things that push back on the predominant image of primitive/roaming Indians of historical fiction are Isaac's mom calling to him from the back porch and the fact that they raise chickens and that they garden, too.
And, Isaac--a 10-year-old--knows about treaties and what they mean... That, too, is reality.
Debbie
__________________________________________________________ Debbie Reese, PhD Tribally enrolled: Nambe Pueblo
Email: dreese.nambe_at_gmail.com<mailto:dreese.nambe_at_gmail.com>
Website: American Indians in Children's Literature
_at_ http://americanindiansinchildrensliterature.net<http://americanindiansinchildrensliterature.net/>
Now: Studying for MLIS at San Jose State University Then: Assistant Professor in American Indian Studies, University of Illinois
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