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From: Elliott batTzedek <ebattzedek_at_americanreading.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 07:21:40 -0500
I love the idea of extensions of books - links to the sources, the pictures, the oral histories, etc. A technological sidenote here - there is a bilingual English/Spanish tech-geek (their description) magazine being published out of Philadelphia that's also dual print/web. On any article in the print edition there is a bar code. By running your smart phone reader over it, you are taken directly to their web site to read the article in the other language (with targeted advertisements, of course).
So we are developing ways to make information both/and instead of either/or. I love that.
Elliott batTzedek
From: bookmarch_at_aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 5:32 PM To: schliesman_at_education.wisc.edu; ccbc-net@lists.wisc.edu Subject: Re:
Source Note, Nonfiction, the GN perplex
Couple of thoughts:
On the GN naming problem -- I ran into this years ago when I edited Judd Winick's "Pedro and Me." We couldn't call it a "graphic novel" since it was true, and to call it a "graphic memoir" implied it was salacious or in some other way gritty and adult. Whenever we could we called it "graphic novel memoir" which, while a mouthful, at least roughly defined both the format and the subject.
On citations -- I see citations this way -- there is tons of information out there. The author finds a path through it, a way through that density of possible facts, stories, events, interpretations. A citation is like the blaze a guide makes as he finds his way through a forest -- it is a sign, a marker -- I passed by here, I went this way, you can too. And beyond that it is also a location finder -- "hey, when I passed here I could only stop to mark this one tree, but the whole area around here is interesting, you may want to come back and look around." The ideal way for citations to function as that trail-blazing function is on the web, because then you can immediately click through and -- in many cases -- read the source, or at least learn much more about it. So we might think about having websites dedicated to books -- not to replace backmatter but to echo and extend it -- to offer readers a quick way to make most use of those references. And of course the advantage of web citations is space is not an i ssue -- so of course you would give the source for every quotation. I personally love flipping back and forth from narrative to notes, and we should not get rid of print notes. But I can see real advantages to also placing them, and indeed expanding and extending them, on dedicated websites.
Marc Aronson
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 07:21:40 -0500
I love the idea of extensions of books - links to the sources, the pictures, the oral histories, etc. A technological sidenote here - there is a bilingual English/Spanish tech-geek (their description) magazine being published out of Philadelphia that's also dual print/web. On any article in the print edition there is a bar code. By running your smart phone reader over it, you are taken directly to their web site to read the article in the other language (with targeted advertisements, of course).
So we are developing ways to make information both/and instead of either/or. I love that.
Elliott batTzedek
From: bookmarch_at_aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 5:32 PM To: schliesman_at_education.wisc.edu; ccbc-net@lists.wisc.edu Subject: Re:
Source Note, Nonfiction, the GN perplex
Couple of thoughts:
On the GN naming problem -- I ran into this years ago when I edited Judd Winick's "Pedro and Me." We couldn't call it a "graphic novel" since it was true, and to call it a "graphic memoir" implied it was salacious or in some other way gritty and adult. Whenever we could we called it "graphic novel memoir" which, while a mouthful, at least roughly defined both the format and the subject.
On citations -- I see citations this way -- there is tons of information out there. The author finds a path through it, a way through that density of possible facts, stories, events, interpretations. A citation is like the blaze a guide makes as he finds his way through a forest -- it is a sign, a marker -- I passed by here, I went this way, you can too. And beyond that it is also a location finder -- "hey, when I passed here I could only stop to mark this one tree, but the whole area around here is interesting, you may want to come back and look around." The ideal way for citations to function as that trail-blazing function is on the web, because then you can immediately click through and -- in many cases -- read the source, or at least learn much more about it. So we might think about having websites dedicated to books -- not to replace backmatter but to echo and extend it -- to offer readers a quick way to make most use of those references. And of course the advantage of web citations is space is not an i ssue -- so of course you would give the source for every quotation. I personally love flipping back and forth from narrative to notes, and we should not get rid of print notes. But I can see real advantages to also placing them, and indeed expanding and extending them, on dedicated websites.
Marc Aronson
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