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From: Kunze, Peter <pkunze_at_fsu.edu>
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 00:36:19 +0000
Thanks for this interesting piece, Perry. I'm often ambivalent about the page, though I read it often. I gritted my teeth while reading this article, though, because many of the points felt like what one would expect from pop criticism at this time. In short, it played it safe. And that someone who works for Salon and posts on Gawker accuses someone else of being clickbait is wholly hypocritical. Stanton doesn't advertise anything, aside from his book and now this goodwill tour -- but doesn't he have a right to monetize his effort?
Sure, there's a picture and a short story, but what's to be expected from a brief encounter? I view Humans of New York, and some of these profiled people have criticized the American education system, race relations, religiosity versus secularity, etc. I find the real gross sentimentalizing comes in the vapid comments. The problem, for me, is not how Stanton presents the people, but in how viewers process it. We need better readers -- of books, of media, of culture. (But as someone shifting from literary studies to media studies, I am biased.)
________________________________ From: P Nodelman [perry_nodelman_at_shaw.ca] Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2014 6:24 PM To: ccbc-net_at_lists.wisc.edu Subject: Re: [ccbc-net] or both
This recent online piece offers an interesting commentary on the limited viewpoint being expressed in Humans of New York--a commentary that might well throw light on similar limitations in the fictional depictions that people have been discussing here.
http://gawker.com/the-problem-with-humans-of-new-york-1617812880
The writer of the Gawker piece would argue that the perceived similarities and differences are in the service of supporting the limited world view of one photographer, and not generally revealing of a truly wide range of truly different kinds of people.
Yours,
Perry Nodelman
On Aug 16, 2014, at 4:58 PM, Amanda <amaschmurph_at_gmail.com> wrote:
While reading about the authenticity of books published about various cultures, I can't help but think of Humans of New York. The person behind the camera is currently on a world tour that will ultimately take him to ten countries. This tour began recently, starting in Iraq. He has been in two or three nations in the Middle East.
His photographs, and the stories the subjects tell, illustrate how alike we all are...and how very different we are as well.
You can follow his journey on Facebook (https://m.facebook.com/humansofnewyork) or on Instagram (http://instagram.com/humansofny).
Amanda
Amanda L. S. Murphy
Perry Nodelman Professor Emeritus, University of Winnipeg perry.nodelman_at_icloud.com http://binaryopposites.wordpress.com/
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Received on Sat 16 Aug 2014 07:39:18 PM CDT
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 00:36:19 +0000
Thanks for this interesting piece, Perry. I'm often ambivalent about the page, though I read it often. I gritted my teeth while reading this article, though, because many of the points felt like what one would expect from pop criticism at this time. In short, it played it safe. And that someone who works for Salon and posts on Gawker accuses someone else of being clickbait is wholly hypocritical. Stanton doesn't advertise anything, aside from his book and now this goodwill tour -- but doesn't he have a right to monetize his effort?
Sure, there's a picture and a short story, but what's to be expected from a brief encounter? I view Humans of New York, and some of these profiled people have criticized the American education system, race relations, religiosity versus secularity, etc. I find the real gross sentimentalizing comes in the vapid comments. The problem, for me, is not how Stanton presents the people, but in how viewers process it. We need better readers -- of books, of media, of culture. (But as someone shifting from literary studies to media studies, I am biased.)
________________________________ From: P Nodelman [perry_nodelman_at_shaw.ca] Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2014 6:24 PM To: ccbc-net_at_lists.wisc.edu Subject: Re: [ccbc-net] or both
This recent online piece offers an interesting commentary on the limited viewpoint being expressed in Humans of New York--a commentary that might well throw light on similar limitations in the fictional depictions that people have been discussing here.
http://gawker.com/the-problem-with-humans-of-new-york-1617812880
The writer of the Gawker piece would argue that the perceived similarities and differences are in the service of supporting the limited world view of one photographer, and not generally revealing of a truly wide range of truly different kinds of people.
Yours,
Perry Nodelman
On Aug 16, 2014, at 4:58 PM, Amanda <amaschmurph_at_gmail.com> wrote:
While reading about the authenticity of books published about various cultures, I can't help but think of Humans of New York. The person behind the camera is currently on a world tour that will ultimately take him to ten countries. This tour began recently, starting in Iraq. He has been in two or three nations in the Middle East.
His photographs, and the stories the subjects tell, illustrate how alike we all are...and how very different we are as well.
You can follow his journey on Facebook (https://m.facebook.com/humansofnewyork) or on Instagram (http://instagram.com/humansofny).
Amanda
Amanda L. S. Murphy
Perry Nodelman Professor Emeritus, University of Winnipeg perry.nodelman_at_icloud.com http://binaryopposites.wordpress.com/
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