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From: Carol Edwards <edwarc_at_pon.net>
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2014 10:40:53 -0700
I mostly lurk here, but I have to say that I agree with Ed here on both counts. The Best Books for Young Adults change to Best Fiction is leaving us with some holes. I wish the group could be re-formatted into a triumvirate. Is that the right word? Three parts-- one for graphic novels, one for nonfiction and a third for fiction. Each group could be made up of 7, 9 or 11 members-- a chair and an even number of committee members and they all would listen to the kids at the Teen Feedback Session, yet work independently to create their lists. I still like the award for nonfiction. And, yes, we need to define a bit more clearly what that is. Anyone want to take a stab at that? Carol
Carol Edwards
Co-Manager of Children's and Family Services
Denver Public Library
10 W Fourteenth Ave. Pkwy.
Denver, CO 80204
720 865-1307
Opinions expressed here are my own and while strongly held and firmly believed, do not belong to my employer in any way."
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Subject : RE:[ccbc-net] The Role of YALSA
I could not agree more with Marc Aronson's characterization of the YALSA's BBYA travesty as an "unforgivable abomination" and I, too, see YALSA's Excellence in Nonfiction Award as an opportunity to bring attention to nonfiction for older teens. However, in not having any official criteria identifying what constitutes "excellence in nonfiction," I would argue the award lacks legitimacy. The "we know it when see it" approach is difficult to take seriously.
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Subject: [ccbc-net] The Role of YALSA
From: Marc Aronson <aronson.marc_at_gmail.com>
Date: Mon, June 09, 2014 9:59 am
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I forgot to mention this in my long post -- perhaps for the best. One key to the High YA NF issue is YALSA -- which is, after all, ALA's organization devoted to serving YA readers. The destruction of Best Books for Young Adults and the decision to replace it with Best Fiction
(eliminating all NF from consideration) was an unforgivable abomination -- opposed by leaders in the field who had served as chairs of BBYA. There is NO current list of NF for teen reading groups to consider, no NF in YA galley or Top Ten voting, no public discussion of YA NF at ALA conferences -- none.
On the other hand, the creation of the YALSA NF award creates an opportunity. I understand that The Hub may serve as a forum for discussing current YA NF online. YALSA members -- this is your organization, speak up.
As a simple starting place, I urge all of you who work with teenagers to consider your YA NF section -- or do you have one? How visible, how prominent is your YA NF? Is it shelved with adult? If so, do you know the surrounding titles? How can you guide a bright 15 year old interested in philosophy, math, neuroscience, string theory...but not fully ready for adult titles?
Marc Aronson
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Received on Mon 09 Jun 2014 12:40:53 PM CDT
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2014 10:40:53 -0700
I mostly lurk here, but I have to say that I agree with Ed here on both counts. The Best Books for Young Adults change to Best Fiction is leaving us with some holes. I wish the group could be re-formatted into a triumvirate. Is that the right word? Three parts-- one for graphic novels, one for nonfiction and a third for fiction. Each group could be made up of 7, 9 or 11 members-- a chair and an even number of committee members and they all would listen to the kids at the Teen Feedback Session, yet work independently to create their lists. I still like the award for nonfiction. And, yes, we need to define a bit more clearly what that is. Anyone want to take a stab at that? Carol
Carol Edwards
Co-Manager of Children's and Family Services
Denver Public Library
10 W Fourteenth Ave. Pkwy.
Denver, CO 80204
720 865-1307
Opinions expressed here are my own and while strongly held and firmly believed, do not belong to my employer in any way."
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Subject : RE:[ccbc-net] The Role of YALSA
I could not agree more with Marc Aronson's characterization of the YALSA's BBYA travesty as an "unforgivable abomination" and I, too, see YALSA's Excellence in Nonfiction Award as an opportunity to bring attention to nonfiction for older teens. However, in not having any official criteria identifying what constitutes "excellence in nonfiction," I would argue the award lacks legitimacy. The "we know it when see it" approach is difficult to take seriously.
Edward T. Sullivan, Rogue Librarian
http://www.sully-writer.com
http://sullywriter.wordpress.com
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Subject: [ccbc-net] The Role of YALSA
From: Marc Aronson <aronson.marc_at_gmail.com>
Date: Mon, June 09, 2014 9:59 am
To: "ccbc-net_at_lists.wisc.edu" <ccbc-net@lists.wisc.edu>
I forgot to mention this in my long post -- perhaps for the best. One key to the High YA NF issue is YALSA -- which is, after all, ALA's organization devoted to serving YA readers. The destruction of Best Books for Young Adults and the decision to replace it with Best Fiction
(eliminating all NF from consideration) was an unforgivable abomination -- opposed by leaders in the field who had served as chairs of BBYA. There is NO current list of NF for teen reading groups to consider, no NF in YA galley or Top Ten voting, no public discussion of YA NF at ALA conferences -- none.
On the other hand, the creation of the YALSA NF award creates an opportunity. I understand that The Hub may serve as a forum for discussing current YA NF online. YALSA members -- this is your organization, speak up.
As a simple starting place, I urge all of you who work with teenagers to consider your YA NF section -- or do you have one? How visible, how prominent is your YA NF? Is it shelved with adult? If so, do you know the surrounding titles? How can you guide a bright 15 year old interested in philosophy, math, neuroscience, string theory...but not fully ready for adult titles?
Marc Aronson
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