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Instrumental vs Aesthetic poetry
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From: Joyce Sidman <joyce.sidman_at_gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2014 14:04:18 -0500
Mark,
I may not completely understand what you are asking . . . I don't think I've ever thought of poetry as either instrumental vs aesthetic. Perhaps I am just misunderstanding the word "instrumental". I don't think of poetry as didactic, but it can certainly convey wisdom. To me, the importance of poetry in the classroom is--in the reading of it--to convey complex meaning that both celebrates and illuminates our lives. When reading a poem with students, the questions I try to ask are: "How does this poem make you feel? Why? Which specific parts of the poem convey this feeling? Which words do you like? Which phrases paint a picture in your head? Does this poem connect to anything in your own life?" In other words: what impact does the poet's language have on you, and how exactly does he/she DO it?
In the writing of poetry, I want students to understand that this power belongs to them, as well. THEY can create language that moves other people, that conveys complexity, that captures an important part of their own lives.
If it were up to me, each class day would start with the oral reading/discussion of a poem, and end with the quiet writing of a poem . .
. .
Joyce
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Mark Geary said:
"I believe if we can "hook" more teachers into teaching poetry from the instrumental perspective, we might have a greater willingness on the part of both teachers and administrators to engage with poetry as part of the teaching process, either from a Common Core "deep read" perspective, or from a technology integration perspective.
"While the purpose may vary from the typical aesthetic goals, the end result might be having more time spent in schools teaching and engaging with poetry.
"If I am not burned as a heretic, I would like to hear your thoughts on this."
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Received on Sat 26 Apr 2014 02:04:38 PM CDT
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2014 14:04:18 -0500
Mark,
I may not completely understand what you are asking . . . I don't think I've ever thought of poetry as either instrumental vs aesthetic. Perhaps I am just misunderstanding the word "instrumental". I don't think of poetry as didactic, but it can certainly convey wisdom. To me, the importance of poetry in the classroom is--in the reading of it--to convey complex meaning that both celebrates and illuminates our lives. When reading a poem with students, the questions I try to ask are: "How does this poem make you feel? Why? Which specific parts of the poem convey this feeling? Which words do you like? Which phrases paint a picture in your head? Does this poem connect to anything in your own life?" In other words: what impact does the poet's language have on you, and how exactly does he/she DO it?
In the writing of poetry, I want students to understand that this power belongs to them, as well. THEY can create language that moves other people, that conveys complexity, that captures an important part of their own lives.
If it were up to me, each class day would start with the oral reading/discussion of a poem, and end with the quiet writing of a poem . .
. .
Joyce
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Mark Geary said:
"I believe if we can "hook" more teachers into teaching poetry from the instrumental perspective, we might have a greater willingness on the part of both teachers and administrators to engage with poetry as part of the teaching process, either from a Common Core "deep read" perspective, or from a technology integration perspective.
"While the purpose may vary from the typical aesthetic goals, the end result might be having more time spent in schools teaching and engaging with poetry.
"If I am not burned as a heretic, I would like to hear your thoughts on this."
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