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From: Julie Halpern <juliehalpern114_at_yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 06:23:44 -0700 (PDT)
KT,
It was more about readers learning that there are more ways to experience sexual pleasure besides just intercourse. I wanted to show female readers that they deserve to enjoy sexual experiences as much as males do, and I wanted male readers to recognize that there is pleasure in giving, which I think is something not stressed in teen life as much as it is in adulthood.
Julie
www.juliehalpern.com
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From: K.T. Horning <horning_at_education.wisc.edu> To: ccbc-net_at_lists.wisc.edu Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 7:38 AM Subject: Re: [ccbc-net] question for Julie or others
I wondered the same thing, Helen. The first two physical encounters she has with Leo, she actually says "I don't want to have sex" and Leo says
"Okay, we don't have to," and presses on. The first time he uses his fingers to bring her to orgasm, and the second time, his tongue. I have read that a lot of teens don't consider this to be sex, so that's how I read it. But as an adult reading it, it did give me pause.
--KT
> On 3/26/2014 6:47 AM, Helen Frost wrote:
> Something I've gone back and forth on: Is the sex with Alex, especially the scene in the book closet, consensual?
> The observation that "you looked like you wanted me to" by two different boys (I love her comment "Can someone take a picture so I can stop doing that?" this is from memory, I'm not sure it's an exact quote) kind of stopped me in my tracks, having read some journals/poetry by teens where something like that has been said manipulatively.
>
> When I'm reading that scene, I kind of hold my breath that she won't be hurt, and it seems she is not. When I think about it later, I wonder about boys reading it and trying on some of Leo's behavior less -- I don't know --- generously?
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 06:23:44 -0700 (PDT)
KT,
It was more about readers learning that there are more ways to experience sexual pleasure besides just intercourse. I wanted to show female readers that they deserve to enjoy sexual experiences as much as males do, and I wanted male readers to recognize that there is pleasure in giving, which I think is something not stressed in teen life as much as it is in adulthood.
Julie
www.juliehalpern.com
________________________________
From: K.T. Horning <horning_at_education.wisc.edu> To: ccbc-net_at_lists.wisc.edu Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 7:38 AM Subject: Re: [ccbc-net] question for Julie or others
I wondered the same thing, Helen. The first two physical encounters she has with Leo, she actually says "I don't want to have sex" and Leo says
"Okay, we don't have to," and presses on. The first time he uses his fingers to bring her to orgasm, and the second time, his tongue. I have read that a lot of teens don't consider this to be sex, so that's how I read it. But as an adult reading it, it did give me pause.
--KT
> On 3/26/2014 6:47 AM, Helen Frost wrote:
> Something I've gone back and forth on: Is the sex with Alex, especially the scene in the book closet, consensual?
> The observation that "you looked like you wanted me to" by two different boys (I love her comment "Can someone take a picture so I can stop doing that?" this is from memory, I'm not sure it's an exact quote) kind of stopped me in my tracks, having read some journals/poetry by teens where something like that has been said manipulatively.
>
> When I'm reading that scene, I kind of hold my breath that she won't be hurt, and it seems she is not. When I think about it later, I wonder about boys reading it and trying on some of Leo's behavior less -- I don't know --- generously?
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