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From: Norma Jean Sawicki <nsawicki_at_nyc.rr.com>
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 20:33:31 -0500
My remarks about novels written in first person... had to do with the written word as it applies to fiction and from every study I have read, most kids in this country do not know how to write properly, let alone well.
On Jan 31, 2010, at 7:39 PM, Killeen, Erlene wrote:
Now I remember the disadvantage of receiving the list in digest form -- so many great topics and comments I want to make and for many of you it will seem like old news. Please forgive and indulge me!
Loved the winners -- So happy for Jerry Pinkney!!! Think the others were all grand too! Delighted that Going Bovine won -- bizarre and entertaining!
Owning the winners before the announcements --- I wish! In the
school world, we have so little money and/or time for reviews and ordering, I seldom have all the winners and am eternally grateful for the lists -- they shape my spring orders and give me a sense of direction when I have to cut down my orders, as do all your comments!!
Non-fiction -- my least favorite word in "library land." I use informational books with my children -- under the age of 10 -- because it indicates something rather than not - fiction!!! Kids love to read books about real stuff! REAL -- that's the other word, usually the one they prefer to use! I, however, think that many fiction books are REAL and TRUE so I can't use those terms for non-fiction. Sometimes we just say "the number books" for a location device.
Grammar -- With the changing of English constantly, proper grammar is hard to define. Many words I learned from my educating parents have been eliminated due to popular culture meanings (gay, queer, Dick as a perfectly good boy's name, bang, oh this list goes on and on) and spellings and usage keep changing regularly. I tried to teach my own offspring to think politeness when speaking -- always put the other person first!! Sometimes it worked, sometimes not.
Language by the young narrator -- my own son, who had huge language problems and learning disabilities, often amazed his teachers with his vocabulary and speaking knowledge. He couldn't write a sentence or spell anything yet he knew history, politics, cultural references, and lots of literary terms -- he could talk about almost anything in his early years due to tons of exposure and travel with family. When I read a child narrator, I assume that narrator is telling the story and would be able to use language far in advance to anything written.
Thanks for listening! Erlene
Erlene Bishop Killeen erlene.killeen_at_stoughton.k12.wi.us Stoughton Area Schools 1601 West South Street Stoughton, WI 53589 608-877-5181
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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 20:33:31 -0500
My remarks about novels written in first person... had to do with the written word as it applies to fiction and from every study I have read, most kids in this country do not know how to write properly, let alone well.
On Jan 31, 2010, at 7:39 PM, Killeen, Erlene wrote:
Now I remember the disadvantage of receiving the list in digest form -- so many great topics and comments I want to make and for many of you it will seem like old news. Please forgive and indulge me!
Loved the winners -- So happy for Jerry Pinkney!!! Think the others were all grand too! Delighted that Going Bovine won -- bizarre and entertaining!
Owning the winners before the announcements --- I wish! In the
school world, we have so little money and/or time for reviews and ordering, I seldom have all the winners and am eternally grateful for the lists -- they shape my spring orders and give me a sense of direction when I have to cut down my orders, as do all your comments!!
Non-fiction -- my least favorite word in "library land." I use informational books with my children -- under the age of 10 -- because it indicates something rather than not - fiction!!! Kids love to read books about real stuff! REAL -- that's the other word, usually the one they prefer to use! I, however, think that many fiction books are REAL and TRUE so I can't use those terms for non-fiction. Sometimes we just say "the number books" for a location device.
Grammar -- With the changing of English constantly, proper grammar is hard to define. Many words I learned from my educating parents have been eliminated due to popular culture meanings (gay, queer, Dick as a perfectly good boy's name, bang, oh this list goes on and on) and spellings and usage keep changing regularly. I tried to teach my own offspring to think politeness when speaking -- always put the other person first!! Sometimes it worked, sometimes not.
Language by the young narrator -- my own son, who had huge language problems and learning disabilities, often amazed his teachers with his vocabulary and speaking knowledge. He couldn't write a sentence or spell anything yet he knew history, politics, cultural references, and lots of literary terms -- he could talk about almost anything in his early years due to tons of exposure and travel with family. When I read a child narrator, I assume that narrator is telling the story and would be able to use language far in advance to anything written.
Thanks for listening! Erlene
Erlene Bishop Killeen erlene.killeen_at_stoughton.k12.wi.us Stoughton Area Schools 1601 West South Street Stoughton, WI 53589 608-877-5181
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