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From: Kathy Johnson <kmquimby>
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 10:08:54 -0400
I've always thought that Ramona Quimby provided a lovely way to talk about negative words, especially swearing. I've forgotten which book it is, but there's a scene at the dining table when she announces that she is going to say "a bad word." The word? "Guts." Everyone laughs, but in typical Ramona fashion, even though she's missed the specifics, she has caught the essence of what makes a "bad" word.
When it comes to swearing, I also think my History of the English Language teacher was spot on when he said that there's much to be said for saving swear words for those times when you need to express strong emotion---usually anger. They have a place (unlike name calling).
Kathy Q. once labeled "The Walking Encyclopedia" (and it was not meant respectfully)
At 07:11 PM 4/11/2009, Killeen, Erlene wrote:
>As a school librarian who also conducts literature groups for 3rd
>and 4th graders I am interested in everyone's thoughts about name
>calling. I run groups for advanced readers and we generally read
>middle school level literature. We spend a lot of time talking
>about inappropriate words -- swearing, name calling, disrespectful
>comments, etc. in the texts we read. It is quite a maturing process
>for my students. We discuss character motivation, historical
>settings, and the difference between literature and current day
>speech. They are fascinated with all the changes in society and
>all the boldness of the authors and me, as their teacher. I think
>this is the same type of discussions that middle school and high
>school teachers have frequently with their students reading more
>"classic" material and more street savy literature.
>
>As a parent of two children, I had frequent conversations about
>television, movies, and even some relatives thoughtless remarks over
>the years. My children, now grown, heard all sorts of things and
>eventually started bringing home tales to me, it was
>fascinating. At least I still have a source about the meanings of
>new slang and we talk about typically uncomfortable things with an
>openess I appreciate.
>
>Knowledge -- learning -- thoughtfulness -- isn't this part of our
>calling as librarians?
>
>I think this is a fascinating topic even if it is not directly
>related to the titles listed in this month's topic. Maybe this is a
>topic we can return to some month.
>Erlene
>
>Erlene Bishop Killeen
>erlene.killeen at stoughton.k12.wi.us
>Stoughton Area Schools
>1601 West South Street
>Stoughton, WI 53589
>608-877-5181
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> 1. automated response (kflynn)
> 2. TRUE DIARY - Alexie (Debbie Reese)
> 3. Re: TRUE DIARY - Alexie (Kathleen T. Horning)
> 4. Reading Buddies (Melissa Stewart)
> 5. Nation: Terry Pratchett, read by Stephen Briggs (emily nichols)
> 6. Re: TRUE DIARY - Alexie (Miriam Newman)
> 7. Re: Questions about the Odyssey Award (PamSHolley at aol.com)
> 8. Just to clarify... (Debbie Reese)
> 9. Re: Questions about the Odyssey Award (Lesesne, Teri)
> 10. Re: Just to clarify... (Wendy Burton)
> 11. Name-calling (Elsa Marston)
> 12. Re: Name-calling (Tater Tot)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 13:10:35 -0400
>From: "kflynn" <kflynn at hbook.com>
>Subject: [CCBC-Net] automated response
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>Message: 2
>Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:12:33 -0500
>From: Debbie Reese <debreese at illinois.edu>
>Subject: [CCBC-Net] TRUE DIARY - Alexie
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>I've been thinking hard about ABSOLUTELY TRUE
>DIARY of late, prompted by a colleague who finds
>it homophobic. I asked another colleague about it
>and we've started studying passages in the book.
>This is hard for me, because I want to celebrate
>books by Native authors that are realistic
>portrayals of the lives of Native people. I find
>a lot of what Alexie shares in DIARY to be right
>on. That's its value, for me, but I'm thinking
>about the homophobia in the book and the work it does.
>
>I've been away from ccbc-net for some time, so if
>you already discussed this, I apologize for raising it now.
>
>Debbie
>(reading ccbc-net in digest)
>
>
>
>Visit my Internet resource:
>American Indians in Children's Literature
>http://americanindiansinchildrensliterature.net
>
>Debbie A. Reese (Namb? O'-ween-ge')
>Assistant Professor, American Indian Studies
>University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
>Native American House, Room 2005
>1204 West Nevada Street, MC-138
>Urbana, Illinois 61801
>
>Email: debreese at illinois.edu
>TEL 217-265-9885
>FAX 217-265-9880
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>Message: 3
>Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:52:35 -0500
>From: "Kathleen T. Horning" <horning at education.wisc.edu>
>Subject: Re: [CCBC-Net] TRUE DIARY - Alexie
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>Debbie, in my opinion, it's the opposite of homophobic. Alexie confronts
>homophobia naturally and directly in several passages, most notably the
>one about his grandmother, that begins: "Do you want to know the very
>best thing about my grandmother? She was tolerant." He then goes on to
>talk about how gays were accepted by Indians in the old days, and that
>his grandmother had no time for gay-bashing or homophobia.
>
>There's also a passage where Junior and Rowdy call each other faggots,
>as many teen boys do quite freely. But he tempters it with this: ?Now
>that might just sound like a series of homophobic insults, but I think
>it was also a little bit friendly, and it was the first time that Rowdy
>and I had talked since I left the rez. I was a happy faggot!? I would
>argue that any teenage boy who is comfortable enough to call himself a
>faggot in this joyful sort of way is not homophobic. It also strikes me
>as very funny and I admire Alexie's honesty and integrity in this regard.
>
>I can't speak for all gay people, but the other gay and lesbian readers
>I've discussed the book with have also felt very positive about those
>passages, as well as about the book in general.
>
>I think "Absolutely True Diary of a Part-Time Indian" is a great book,
>and I was pleased to see it get further accolades this year from the
>Odyssey Committee for the audiobook version.
>
>KT
>
>
>Kathleen T. Horning
>Director
>Cooperative Children's Book Center
>4290 Helen C. White Hall
>600 N. Park St
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>horning at education.wisc.edu
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>
>Debbie Reese wrote:
> > I've been thinking hard about ABSOLUTELY TRUE
> > DIARY of late, prompted by a colleague who finds
> > it homophobic. I asked another colleague about it
> > and we've started studying passages in the book.
> > This is hard for me, because I want to celebrate
> > books by Native authors that are realistic
> > portrayals of the lives of Native people. I find
> > a lot of what Alexie shares in DIARY to be right
> > on. That's its value, for me, but I'm thinking
> > about the homophobia in the book and the work it does.
> >
> > I've been away from ccbc-net for some time, so if
> > you already discussed this, I apologize for raising it now.
> >
> > Debbie
> > (reading ccbc-net in digest)
> >
> >
> >
> > Visit my Internet resource:
> > American Indians in Children's Literature
> > http://americanindiansinchildrensliterature.net
> >
> > Debbie A. Reese (Namb? O'-ween-ge')
> > Assistant Professor, American Indian Studies
> > University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
> > Native American House, Room 2005
> > 1204 West Nevada Street, MC-138
> > Urbana, Illinois 61801
> >
> > Email: debreese at illinois.edu
> > TEL 217-265-9885
> > FAX 217-265-9880
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>Message: 4
>Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 13:58:15 -0400
>From: "Melissa Stewart" <hbeeprod at msn.com>
>Subject: [CCBC-Net] Reading Buddies
>To: <ccbc-net at lists.education.wisc.edu>
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>I am writing an article about Book Buddies/Reading Buddies programs
>that pair individual students in grades 1 or 2 with students in
>grades 4-6 and would like to interview teachers and librarians who
>have coordinated or supported this kind of program. If you would
>like to participate, please email me off list.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Melissa Stewart
>www.melissa-stewart.com<about:blank>
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>Message: 5
>Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:15:06 -0400
>From: emily nichols <emilylnichols at gmail.com>
>Subject: [CCBC-Net] Nation: Terry Pratchett, read by Stephen Briggs
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>Nation is the only one of the Odyssey books that I have had the pleasure of
>hearing. I absolutely loved it- Stephen Briggs' reading is versatile enough
>to bring to life the orphaned boy Mau, the elderly medicine woman on his
>island, the priggish and inexperienced Daphne and her domineering
>grandmother. And the warm, sad, thoughtful and hilarious narration.
>
>Often listening to the book I would be laughing and tearful at the same time
>(somewhat dangerous while driving). I think it stays remarkably true to the
>conventions of its world and the ages of its characters while turning some
>of my conceptions of our 19th century on end. Knowing that the author was
>suffering from early onset Alzheimer's while he wrote it and that his friend
>Briggs is the reader made it even more poignant for me, illuminating the
>theme of loss that ran through the story.
>
>Thanks for reading,
>Emily Nichols
>Head of Children's Services
>Beverly Public Library
>
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>Message: 6
>Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:46:39 -0400
>From: Miriam Newman <mnewman at leeandlow.com>
>Subject: Re: [CCBC-Net] TRUE DIARY - Alexie
>To: "Kathleen T. Horning" <horning at education.wisc.edu>
>Cc: CCBC-NET <ccbc-net at ccbc.education.wisc.edu>
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>Message: 7
>Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 16:01:07 EDT
>From: PamSHolley at aol.com
>Subject: Re: [CCBC-Net] Questions about the Odyssey Award
>To: SVardell at mail.twu.edu, gmkruse at wisc.edu,
> CCBC-Net at ccbc.education.wisc.edu
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>To follow up on Sylvia's information, the 2009 Odyssey Committee [the
>second year of the Odyssey Award] received over 350 titles which represented
>over 1862 hours of listening. Because of doubling up on many of the titles,
>committee members each listened to over 400 hours of assigned listening [I
>have no idea how many extra hours of listening were incurred by each member].
>
>Sylvia mentions the critical listening, which is a truly unique experience
>and will forever affect the way one listens to/hears an audiobook for ever
>after. When you sit down with no distractions and just listen to one disc,
>or for one hour--whatever works best for you--taking notes as you go, you'd
>be amazed at the minor glitches you hear. Normally you'd skim right over
>these mistakes as your brain has figured out what should be there based on
>the context of the story, but "critical listening" enables you to hear the
>breathing, pages being turned, and the misconnects between "he replied
>icily" and the narrator speaking normally. It's an exercise I'd recommend to
>everyone and one that was started by the 2008 Odyssey Committee's
>first chair,
>Mary Burkey.
>
>The Odyssey Award is given to the producer of the audiobook and the
>emphasis is on the production of the work. A look at the criteria page
>_http://www.ala.org/ala/mgrps/divs/yalsa/booklistsawards/odyssey/policies.cfm_
>(http://www.ala.org/ala/mgrps/divs/yalsa/booklistsawards/odyssey/policies.cfm)
>cites all the criteria, but the main areas on which a production is
>judged are
>the following:
>
> * excellence in narration;
> * excellence of audio interpretation of story, theme, or concept;
> * excellence of execution in the aural techniques of the medium;
> * excellence in the delineation through the audio medium of literary
>elements including plot, theme, characters, mood, setting, or information
>presented;
> * excellence in the appropriateness of technique or treatment to the
>story, theme, or concept.
>Odyssey is unique in that it's sponsored by Booklist [and is fortunate to
>have Sue-Ellen Beauregard as the Booklist Consultant] but administered by
>two divisions--ALSC and YALSA. Chair of the committee alternates between ALSC
>and YALSA and four committee members are appointed by ALSC and four by
>YALSA, for a total of nine members. The two divisions worked hard from the
>beginning to merge their ways of doing business so that Odyssey could be its
>own unique committee, while completing its work within the guidelines
>established by the initial task force.
>
>Though extremely time-consuming, serving on Odyssey is a very different but
> wonderful experience. We're all used to talking about books, but here the
>emphasis shifts to how the book is presented; if the narrator is a match
>for the story; whether or not the story flows with no long breaks or miscues
>or mispronounced works--in short, is it an excellent production?
>
>For me, having always worked with young adults, listening to the
>read-alouds was the highlight of the committee. Once you listen to
>I'm Dirty, one of
>the honor titles, or Martina the Beautiful Cockroach, you're hooked on
>these readalouds. I think I can speak for some of the ALSC members who learned
>how very long some of the YA titles can be. There's a lot of learning that
>goes on for members of both divisions. Though two divisions were
>represented, when the committee met I couldn't have told you who
>represented ALSC and
>who represented YALSA as we were united in one goal--selecting the best
>audiobook of the year. This committee represents the best of ALA with two
>divisions working together.
>
>Pam Spencer Holley, Chair
>2009 Odyssey Audiobook Award Committee
>
>In a message dated 4/10/2009 10:39:50 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>SVardell at mail.twu.edu writes:
>
>Ginny, I'm sure Merri will weigh in, as may other Odyssey committee
>members, but I was lucky enough to serve on the first committee and
>wrote about
>it in a brief article for BOOKLIST which is available online:
>
>http://www.booklistonline.com/default.aspx?page=show_product&pid=2806010
>
>Our committee evaluated 379 audiobooks, including approximately 70
>picture-book read-alongs.... The initial listening total was nearly
>2,000 hours,
>with each member listening nonstop for more than five full-time workweeks.
>Add to that our ?critical listening? of the final nominees, and the total
>was increased by 130 hours. We did indeed get input from a variety of
>people-- including kids, colleagues, and spouses (!)-- and would love to hear
>more from people who have had the chance to listen to our chosen titles, too.
>
>2008
>Award winner:
>Jazz, by Walter Dean Myers, narrated by James "D-Train" Williams and
>Vaneese Thomas, produced by Live Oak Media.
>
>Honor Audiobooks:
>Bloody Jack: Being an Account of the Curious Adventures of Mary "Jacky"
>Faber, Ship's Boy, by L.A. Meyer, narrated by Katherine Kellgren, produced by
>Listen & Live Audio
>Dooby Dooby Moo, by Doreen Cronin, narrated by Randy Travis, produced by
>Weston Woods/Scholastic
>Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, by J.K. Rowling, narrated by Jim
>Dale, produced by Listening Library
>Skulduggery Pleasant, by Derek Landy, narrated by Rupert Degas, produced
>by HarpherChildren's Audio
>Treasure Island, by Robert Louis Stevenson, narrated by Alfred Molina,
>produced by Listening Library
>
>In the year since the first award was announced, we have heard that sales
>for these titles have increased which paved the way for audio recordings of
>the NEXT books in the BLOODY JACK and SKULDUGGERY PLEASANT series-- which
>pleases us so much.
>
>
>Sylvia M. Vardell, Ph.D.
>Professor
>Texas Woman's University
>School of Library & Information Studies
>P O Box 425438
>Denton TX 76204-5438
>940-898-2616
>svardell at twu.edu
>http://poetryforchildren.blogspot.com/
>Co-Editor, BOOKBIRD, the journal of international children's literature
>(http://www.ibby.org)
>
>Author of:
>POETRY ALOUD HERE! SHARING POETRY WITH CHILDREN IN THE LIBRARY (ALA, 2006)
>POETRY PEOPLE; A PRACTICAL GUIDE TO CHILDREN'S POETS (Libraries Unlimited,
>2007)
>CHILDREN'S LITERATURE IN ACTION; A LIBRARIAN'S GUIDE (Libraries Unlimited,
>2008)
>BOOK LINKS columnist: Everyday Poetry
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: ccbc-net-bounces at lists.education.wisc.edu on behalf of Ginny Moore
>Kruse
>Sent: Thu 4/9/2009 12:29 PM
>To: CCBC-Net at ccbc.education.wisc.edu
>Subject: [CCBC-Net] Questions about the Odyssey Award
>
>I haven't had a chance to listen to any of these audiobooks, and that
>might be why others aren't chiming in - yet - with comments either.
>However, now that the topic is on the virtual table, it occurs to me to
>ask how the ALSC/YALSA Odyssey Award Committee does its work. Merri, you
>were a member of that committee a couple of years ago. Did anyone on the
>committee have a chance to get feedback from kids who had heard the
>audiobooks under consideration for the award? I'm also wondering
>approximately how many recorded books were eligible for the Odyssey
>Award when you were a member of the committee? What can you tell us
>about the process?
>
>Best, Ginny
>
>--
>Ginny Moore Kruse
>
>Emerita Director Cooperative Children's Book Center (CCBC)
>gmkruse at wisc.edu
>phone: 608.238.9225
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>Message: 8
>Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:08:01 -0500
>From: Debbie Reese <debreese at illinois.edu>
>Subject: [CCBC-Net] Just to clarify...
>To: ccbc-net at lists.education.wisc.edu
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>KT,
>
>Thanks for your response.
>
>I've touted the book on my site, in lectures, because I like it very much.
>
>The colleague who I was talking with is gay. Part
>of what spurred my email to ccbc is the news of
>the 11 year old boy in Massachusetts who
>committed suicide. News reports are that he was
>taunted as being gay. I thought again about the
>exchange between Rowdy and Junior where "faggot"
>is tossed about. My colleagues concern with the
>language, and the young boy's suicide, are
>colliding for me right now. Hence, I am thinking about the book.
>
>For the person who emailed me privately, I too am
>Native and have endured (and endure) the same
>struggles that Alexie has. Please know that
>raising this question unnerves me a great deal. I
>really really like Alexie's work. I've taught the
>book in my courses at UIUC, and for years I've
>been showing his film BUSINESS OF FANCYDANCING.
>
>My question should not be read as a suggestion
>that I think Alexie is homophobic. A big part of
>the joy I feel over his book is how realistic it
>is. I agree, my nephews talk just like Rowdy and
>Junior, but I don't WANT them to speak the word
>"faggot" as they do. I'm sounding hypocritical, aren't I?
>
>Debbie
>
>
>Visit my Internet resource:
>American Indians in Children's Literature
>http://americanindiansinchildrensliterature.net
>
>Debbie A. Reese (Namb? O'-ween-ge')
>Assistant Professor, American Indian Studies
>University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
>Native American House, Room 2005
>1204 West Nevada Street, MC-138
>Urbana, Illinois 61801
>
>Email: debreese at illinois.edu
>TEL 217-265-9885
>FAX 217-265-9880
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>Message: 9
>Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:29:41 -0500
>From: "Lesesne, Teri" <LIS_TSL at SHSU.EDU>
>Subject: Re: [CCBC-Net] Questions about the Odyssey Award
>To: "PamSHolley at aol.com" <PamSHolley at aol.com>, "SVardell at mail.twu.edu"
> <SVardell at mail.twu.edu>, "gmkruse at wisc.edu"
> <gmkruse at wisc.edu>,
> "CCBC-Net at ccbc.education.wisc.edu" <CCBC-Net at ccbc.education.wisc.edu>
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>I was fortunate enough to be a member of that first Odyssey
>Committee and I cannot tell you all how much I learned as a result
>of serving on a committee which, as Pam pointed out, listens
>critically to our assigned audios. We called it developing our
>Odyssey ears. Even now, as I listen to audio for the review column
>I do for VOYA (which I inherited from Pam, BTW), I find that my
>Odyssey ears pick up the tiniest flaws. For the column I do not
>feel the need to point out all the flaws. However, I have quit
>listening to an audio when the flaws mounted up and up.
>
>As for the audio winners for 2009, I am absolutely thrilled with the
>selections. While I had not had the chance to listen to the
>read-alongs, I did know the other audiobooks well. I am listening a
>second time to the Alexie narration and am just struck dumb with awe
>at how he, and he alone, I think, brings Junior to life. ELIJAH OF
>BUXTON was, I admit, my personal favorite of the audiobooks. That
>was not an easy or simple book to voice and this narrator was simply
>brilliant making Curtis' rhythm and dialect totally accessible to
>the listener. Katie Kellgren's narration for the Bloody Jack books
>is simply beyond belief. She manages all sorts of accents and even
>sings beautifully in these books. And NATION made me laugh out loud
>during my morning commute (and let me tell you how strangely folks
>look at you alone in a car laughing and/or crying uncontrollably).
>
>In addition to the stacks of books next to my bed, there are now
>stacks of audio in the car and many more to be downloaded onto my
>iPod. I can read with my eyes AND with my ears now.
>
>teri
>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>Teri S. Lesesne, Professor of Library Science
>Sam Houston State University
>Huntsville, TX
>doctorl at shsu.edu
>Author of MAKING THE MATCH and NAKED READING (Stenhouse)
>Winner of the 2007 ALAN Award
>
>
>Blog site: http://professornana.livejournal.com
>Web Site: www.professornana.com
>________________________________________
>From: ccbc-net-bounces at lists.education.wisc.edu
>[ccbc-net-bounces at lists.education.wisc.edu] On Behalf
>
>To follow up on Sylvia's information, the 2009 Odyssey Committee [the
>second year of the Odyssey Award] received over 350 titles which represented
>over 1862 hours of listening. Because of doubling up on many of the titles,
>committee members each listened to over 400 hours of assigned listening [I
>have no idea how many extra hours of listening were incurred by each member].
>
>Sylvia mentions the critical listening, which is a truly unique experience
>and will forever affect the way one listens to/hears an audiobook for ever
>after. When you sit down with no distractions and just listen to one disc,
>or for one hour--whatever works best for you--taking notes as you go, you'd
>be amazed at the minor glitches you hear. Normally you'd skim right over
>these mistakes as your brain has figured out what should be there based on
>the context of the story, but "critical listening" enables you to hear the
>breathing, pages being turned, and the misconnects between "he replied
>icily" and the narrator speaking normally. It's an exercise I'd recommend to
>everyone and one that was started by the 2008 Odyssey Committee's
>first chair,
>Mary Burkey.
>
>
>Pam Spencer Holley, Chair
>2009 Odyssey Audiobook Award Committee
>
>In a message dated 4/10/2009 10:39:50 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>SVardell at mail.twu.edu writes:
>
>Ginny, I'm sure Merri will weigh in, as may other Odyssey committee
>members, but I was lucky enough to serve on the first committee and
>wrote about
>it in a brief article for BOOKLIST which is available online:
>
>http://www.booklistonline.com/default.aspx?page=show_product&pid=2806010
>
>Sylvia M. Vardell, Ph.D.
>Professor
>Texas Woman's University
>School of Library & Information Studies
>P O Box 425438
>Denton TX 76204-5438
>940-898-2616
>svardell at twu.edu
>http://poetryforchildren.blogspot.com/
>Co-Editor, BOOKBIRD, the journal of international children's literature
>(http://www.ibby.org)
>
>Author of:
>POETRY ALOUD HERE! SHARING POETRY WITH CHILDREN IN THE LIBRARY (ALA, 2006)
>POETRY PEOPLE; A PRACTICAL GUIDE TO CHILDREN'S POETS (Libraries Unlimited,
>2007)
>CHILDREN'S LITERATURE IN ACTION; A LIBRARIAN'S GUIDE (Libraries Unlimited,
>2008)
>BOOK LINKS columnist: Everyday Poetry
>
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: ccbc-net-bounces at lists.education.wisc.edu on behalf of Ginny Moore
>Kruse
>Sent: Thu 4/9/2009 12:29 PM
>To: CCBC-Net at ccbc.education.wisc.edu
>Subject: [CCBC-Net] Questions about the Odyssey Award
>
>I haven't had a chance to listen to any of these audiobooks, and that
>might be why others aren't chiming in - yet - with comments either.
>However, now that the topic is on the virtual table, it occurs to me to
>ask how the ALSC/YALSA Odyssey Award Committee does its work. Merri, you
>were a member of that committee a couple of years ago. Did anyone on the
>committee have a chance to get feedback from kids who had heard the
>audiobooks under consideration for the award? I'm also wondering
>approximately how many recorded books were eligible for the Odyssey
>Award when you were a member of the committee? What can you tell us
>about the process?
>
>Best, Ginny
>
>--
>Ginny Moore Kruse
>
>Emerita Director Cooperative Children's Book Center (CCBC)
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>Message: 10
>Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 13:34:58 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Wendy Burton <burtonwl at yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: [CCBC-Net] Just to clarify...
>To: Debbie Reese <debreese at illinois.edu>,
> ccbc-net at lists.education.wisc.edu
>Message-ID: <759929.82350.qm at web30202.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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>
>Debbie, I don't think you're sounding hypocritical at
>all, and I appreciate your writing about an issue
>you're still struggling with.
>
>I confess that I haven't read this book yet, though
>I'm probably going to start it today or tomorrow!--but
>based on what people have said here, I'm getting an
>idea of where the controversy stems from (but am
>trying to withhold judgment until I read the book).
>
>I see a strong parallel here between Alexie's use of
>"faggot" as, yes, a typical and sometimes friendly
>slur used between boys, and the use of racist slurs
>about American Indians used in many of the books you
>criticize. I know people say all the time that the
>vocabulary used about American Indians in those books
>is accurate to what people would have said, but it's
>still troublesome. I'm stealing from my own future
>blog post here, but: I used to think the use of those
>slurs in old books didn't matter much, especially when
>taken in context. I thought, "kids know better than
>to say things like that"--I did, when I was a kid.
>Then I read an anecdote on your site about the movie
>Pocahontas--it contains a song with the lyrics
>"savages--barely even human". The song is very
>clearly meant to show that the Jamestown colonists
>were bad and racist, and I believe almost all children
>understand that. Yet that song was STILL, in the
>anecdote recounted, used to taunt an American Indian
>girl on the playground.
>
>The people who wrote the song surely meant it in the
>best possible way; surely they thought they were
>teaching kids a lesson about our less-than-heroic
>colonial ancestors. Perhaps they did--but what they
>ALSO did was put those words, "savages--barely even
>human", in children's mouths. It doesn't matter at
>that point how the lyrics were meant; only how they're
>being used.
>
>To return to Alexie and the word "faggot"--yes,
>accurate to some groups of children (I can't tell you
>how much trouble my brothers would have gotten in if
>they had ever said such a thing and my parents heard
>about it, and I don't think they would have said it),
>but is it necessary for the story? Is it legitimizing
>the use of these words in a negative context? Or does
>it make an effort toward normalizing the term, so that
>for a moment at least, that "insult" doesn't seem like
>much of an insult at all? (I've been called similar
>things since I was a teenager, and once I was old
>enough to have a little perspective, I just laughed
>and said "Do you really think that's some kind of
>insult?") These are the questions I'll be asking
>myself as I read the book.
>
>It is always hard when a bit of doubt sneaks in about
>a book that we love (and sometimes, a book we happen
>to be quite invested in). I know that that's happened
>to me many times, whether the issue is racism,
>homophobia, sexism, or just plain inaccuracy.
>
>Wendy
>burtonwl at yahoo.com
>http://sixboxesofbooks.blogspot.com
>
>--- Debbie Reese <debreese at illinois.edu> wrote:
>
> > KT,
> >
> > Thanks for your response.
> >
> > I've touted the book on my site, in lectures,
> > because I like it very much.
> >
> > The colleague who I was talking with is gay. Part
> > of what spurred my email to ccbc is the news of
> > the 11 year old boy in Massachusetts who
> > committed suicide. News reports are that he was
> > taunted as being gay. I thought again about the
> > exchange between Rowdy and Junior where "faggot"
> > is tossed about. My colleagues concern with the
> > language, and the young boy's suicide, are
> > colliding for me right now. Hence, I am thinking
> > about the book.
> >
> > For the person who emailed me privately, I too am
> > Native and have endured (and endure) the same
> > struggles that Alexie has. Please know that
> > raising this question unnerves me a great deal. I
> > really really like Alexie's work. I've taught the
> > book in my courses at UIUC, and for years I've
> > been showing his film BUSINESS OF FANCYDANCING.
> >
> > My question should not be read as a suggestion
> > that I think Alexie is homophobic. A big part of
> > the joy I feel over his book is how realistic it
> > is. I agree, my nephews talk just like Rowdy and
> > Junior, but I don't WANT them to speak the word
> > "faggot" as they do. I'm sounding hypocritical,
> > aren't I?
> >
> > Debbie
> >
> >
> > Visit my Internet resource:
> > American Indians in Children's Literature
> > http://americanindiansinchildrensliterature.net
> >
> > Debbie A. Reese (Namb??? O'-ween-ge')
> > Assistant Professor, American Indian Studies
> > University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
> > Native American House, Room 2005
> > 1204 West Nevada Street, MC-138
> > Urbana, Illinois 61801
> >
> > Email: debreese at illinois.edu
> > TEL 217-265-9885
> > FAX 217-265-9880
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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>
>
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>Message: 11
>Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 22:26:19 -0500
>From: Elsa Marston <elsa.marston at gmail.com>
>Subject: [CCBC-Net] Name-calling
>To: ccbc-net at ccbc.education.wisc.edu
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>I don't know whether this is getting too off-subject or not; I just want to
>say I'm saving the interesting comments by Debbie Reese and Wendy Burton on
>"name-calling" because they seem relevant to my own main literary concern
>(as writer and specialist-of-sorts), which is Arab and Arab-American kids,
>who are often subject to ethnic slurs.
>
>Do others of you on the CCBC list have observations about whether kids take
>what they read in *books* (fiction) more seriously than what they hear in
>movies, TV, etc.? Do books seem to sanction certain behavior more than
>other forms of entertainment do?
>
>Elsa
>www.elsamarston.com
>
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>Message: 12
>Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 05:39:13 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Tater Tot <tatertot22us at yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: [CCBC-Net] Name-calling
>To: ccbc-net at ccbc.education.wisc.edu, Elsa Marston
> <elsa.marston at gmail.com>
>Message-ID: <798495.40788.qm at web65601.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>
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>
>Hello Elsa,
>About name-calling in books versus movies, tv ... in any way, it's
>terrible to be the one who has the names hurled his/her way. Books
>historically have preserved the words. Now TV and movies make the
>pronounciation easily available. With songs (and not just rap),DVDs,
>film, reruns, U Tube, etc. accessible, this media allow children to
>hear words words as well as show what the victim's reaction is, in full color.
>Children who are not familiar with certain negative words can
>quickly pick them up this way. They might gloss over them in books.
>Some words are so negative that sometimes some victims of the
>targeted ethnic group embrace them, thinking that saying such words
>negates the impact, not realizing that they're merely helping to
>spread and condone them.
>Scholars sometimes use these words in print or verbally, thinking
>that as scholars they're outside the rhelm, merely approaching the
>controversary from an intellectual level. However, they share the
>responsibility of validating such words. I seen and heard writers
>use the "N" word during readings, as if they've been empowered by
>having used it.
>Eleanora E. Tate, Author of the award-winning YA Novel
>Celeste's Harlem Renaissance
>
>
>--- On Fri, 4/10/09, Elsa Marston <elsa.marston at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > From: Elsa Marston <elsa.marston at gmail.com>
> > Subject: [CCBC-Net] Name-calling
> > To: ccbc-net at ccbc.education.wisc.edu
> > Date: Friday, April 10, 2009, 11:26 PM
> > I don't know whether this is getting too off-subject or
> > not; I just want to
> > say I'm saving the interesting comments by Debbie Reese
> > and Wendy Burton on
> > "name-calling" because they seem relevant to my
> > own main literary concern
> > (as writer and specialist-of-sorts), which is Arab and
> > Arab-American kids,
> > who are often subject to ethnic slurs.
> >
> > Do others of you on the CCBC list have observations about
> > whether kids take
> > what they read in *books* (fiction) more seriously than
> > what they hear in
> > movies, TV, etc.? Do books seem to sanction certain
> > behavior more than
> > other forms of entertainment do?
> >
> > Elsa
> > www.elsamarston.com
> > _______________________________________________
> > CCBC-Net mailing list
> > CCBC-Net at lists.education.wisc.edu
> > Visit this link to read archives or to unsubscribe...
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>
>
>
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I've always thought that Ramona Quimby provided a lovely way to talk about negative words, especially swearing. I've forgotten which book it is, but there's a scene at the dining table when she announces that she is going to say "a bad word." The word? "Guts." Everyone laughs, but in typical Ramona fashion, even though she's missed the specifics, she has caught the essence of what makes a "bad" word.
When it comes to swearing, I also think my History of the English Language teacher was spot on when he said that there's much to be said for saving swear words for those times when you need to express strong emotion---usually anger. They have a place (unlike name calling).
Kathy Q. once labeled "The Walking Encyclopedia" (and it was not meant respectfully)
At 07:11 PM 4/11/2009, Killeen, Erlene wrote:
>As a school librarian who also conducts literature groups for 3rd
>and 4th graders I am interested in everyone's thoughts about name
>calling. I run groups for advanced readers and we generally read
>middle school level literature. We spend a lot of time talking
>about inappropriate words -- swearing, name calling, disrespectful
>comments, etc. in the texts we read. It is quite a maturing process
>for my students. We discuss character motivation, historical
>settings, and the difference between literature and current day
>speech. They are fascinated with all the changes in society and
>all the boldness of the authors and me, as their teacher. I think
>this is the same type of discussions that middle school and high
>school teachers have frequently with their students reading more
>"classic" material and more street savy literature.
>
>As a parent of two children, I had frequent conversations about
>television, movies, and even some relatives thoughtless remarks over
>the years. My children, now grown, heard all sorts of things and
>eventually started bringing home tales to me, it was
>fascinating. At least I still have a source about the meanings of
>new slang and we talk about typically uncomfortable things with an
>openess I appreciate.
>
>Knowledge -- learning -- thoughtfulness -- isn't this part of our
>calling as librarians?
>
>I think this is a fascinating topic even if it is not directly
>related to the titles listed in this month's topic. Maybe this is a
>topic we can return to some month.
>Erlene
>
>Erlene Bishop Killeen
>erlene.killeen at stoughton.k12.wi.us
>Stoughton Area Schools
>1601 West South Street
>Stoughton, WI 53589
>608-877-5181
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> 1. automated response (kflynn)
> 2. TRUE DIARY - Alexie (Debbie Reese)
> 3. Re: TRUE DIARY - Alexie (Kathleen T. Horning)
> 4. Reading Buddies (Melissa Stewart)
> 5. Nation: Terry Pratchett, read by Stephen Briggs (emily nichols)
> 6. Re: TRUE DIARY - Alexie (Miriam Newman)
> 7. Re: Questions about the Odyssey Award (PamSHolley at aol.com)
> 8. Just to clarify... (Debbie Reese)
> 9. Re: Questions about the Odyssey Award (Lesesne, Teri)
> 10. Re: Just to clarify... (Wendy Burton)
> 11. Name-calling (Elsa Marston)
> 12. Re: Name-calling (Tater Tot)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 13:10:35 -0400
>From: "kflynn" <kflynn at hbook.com>
>Subject: [CCBC-Net] automated response
>To: ccbc-net at lists.education.wisc.edu
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>Message: 2
>Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:12:33 -0500
>From: Debbie Reese <debreese at illinois.edu>
>Subject: [CCBC-Net] TRUE DIARY - Alexie
>To: ccbc-net at lists.education.wisc.edu
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>I've been thinking hard about ABSOLUTELY TRUE
>DIARY of late, prompted by a colleague who finds
>it homophobic. I asked another colleague about it
>and we've started studying passages in the book.
>This is hard for me, because I want to celebrate
>books by Native authors that are realistic
>portrayals of the lives of Native people. I find
>a lot of what Alexie shares in DIARY to be right
>on. That's its value, for me, but I'm thinking
>about the homophobia in the book and the work it does.
>
>I've been away from ccbc-net for some time, so if
>you already discussed this, I apologize for raising it now.
>
>Debbie
>(reading ccbc-net in digest)
>
>
>
>Visit my Internet resource:
>American Indians in Children's Literature
>http://americanindiansinchildrensliterature.net
>
>Debbie A. Reese (Namb? O'-ween-ge')
>Assistant Professor, American Indian Studies
>University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
>Native American House, Room 2005
>1204 West Nevada Street, MC-138
>Urbana, Illinois 61801
>
>Email: debreese at illinois.edu
>TEL 217-265-9885
>FAX 217-265-9880
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>Message: 3
>Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:52:35 -0500
>From: "Kathleen T. Horning" <horning at education.wisc.edu>
>Subject: Re: [CCBC-Net] TRUE DIARY - Alexie
>To: CCBC-NET <ccbc-net at ccbc.education.wisc.edu>
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>Debbie, in my opinion, it's the opposite of homophobic. Alexie confronts
>homophobia naturally and directly in several passages, most notably the
>one about his grandmother, that begins: "Do you want to know the very
>best thing about my grandmother? She was tolerant." He then goes on to
>talk about how gays were accepted by Indians in the old days, and that
>his grandmother had no time for gay-bashing or homophobia.
>
>There's also a passage where Junior and Rowdy call each other faggots,
>as many teen boys do quite freely. But he tempters it with this: ?Now
>that might just sound like a series of homophobic insults, but I think
>it was also a little bit friendly, and it was the first time that Rowdy
>and I had talked since I left the rez. I was a happy faggot!? I would
>argue that any teenage boy who is comfortable enough to call himself a
>faggot in this joyful sort of way is not homophobic. It also strikes me
>as very funny and I admire Alexie's honesty and integrity in this regard.
>
>I can't speak for all gay people, but the other gay and lesbian readers
>I've discussed the book with have also felt very positive about those
>passages, as well as about the book in general.
>
>I think "Absolutely True Diary of a Part-Time Indian" is a great book,
>and I was pleased to see it get further accolades this year from the
>Odyssey Committee for the audiobook version.
>
>KT
>
>
>Kathleen T. Horning
>Director
>Cooperative Children's Book Center
>4290 Helen C. White Hall
>600 N. Park St
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>
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>
>
>Debbie Reese wrote:
> > I've been thinking hard about ABSOLUTELY TRUE
> > DIARY of late, prompted by a colleague who finds
> > it homophobic. I asked another colleague about it
> > and we've started studying passages in the book.
> > This is hard for me, because I want to celebrate
> > books by Native authors that are realistic
> > portrayals of the lives of Native people. I find
> > a lot of what Alexie shares in DIARY to be right
> > on. That's its value, for me, but I'm thinking
> > about the homophobia in the book and the work it does.
> >
> > I've been away from ccbc-net for some time, so if
> > you already discussed this, I apologize for raising it now.
> >
> > Debbie
> > (reading ccbc-net in digest)
> >
> >
> >
> > Visit my Internet resource:
> > American Indians in Children's Literature
> > http://americanindiansinchildrensliterature.net
> >
> > Debbie A. Reese (Namb? O'-ween-ge')
> > Assistant Professor, American Indian Studies
> > University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
> > Native American House, Room 2005
> > 1204 West Nevada Street, MC-138
> > Urbana, Illinois 61801
> >
> > Email: debreese at illinois.edu
> > TEL 217-265-9885
> > FAX 217-265-9880
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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>Message: 4
>Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 13:58:15 -0400
>From: "Melissa Stewart" <hbeeprod at msn.com>
>Subject: [CCBC-Net] Reading Buddies
>To: <ccbc-net at lists.education.wisc.edu>
>Message-ID: <BLU142-DS518EB631105FF37F75670C6800 at phx.gbl>
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>I am writing an article about Book Buddies/Reading Buddies programs
>that pair individual students in grades 1 or 2 with students in
>grades 4-6 and would like to interview teachers and librarians who
>have coordinated or supported this kind of program. If you would
>like to participate, please email me off list.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Melissa Stewart
>www.melissa-stewart.com<about:blank>
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>Message: 5
>Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:15:06 -0400
>From: emily nichols <emilylnichols at gmail.com>
>Subject: [CCBC-Net] Nation: Terry Pratchett, read by Stephen Briggs
>To: ccbc-net at lists.education.wisc.edu
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>Nation is the only one of the Odyssey books that I have had the pleasure of
>hearing. I absolutely loved it- Stephen Briggs' reading is versatile enough
>to bring to life the orphaned boy Mau, the elderly medicine woman on his
>island, the priggish and inexperienced Daphne and her domineering
>grandmother. And the warm, sad, thoughtful and hilarious narration.
>
>Often listening to the book I would be laughing and tearful at the same time
>(somewhat dangerous while driving). I think it stays remarkably true to the
>conventions of its world and the ages of its characters while turning some
>of my conceptions of our 19th century on end. Knowing that the author was
>suffering from early onset Alzheimer's while he wrote it and that his friend
>Briggs is the reader made it even more poignant for me, illuminating the
>theme of loss that ran through the story.
>
>Thanks for reading,
>Emily Nichols
>Head of Children's Services
>Beverly Public Library
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 6
>Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:46:39 -0400
>From: Miriam Newman <mnewman at leeandlow.com>
>Subject: Re: [CCBC-Net] TRUE DIARY - Alexie
>To: "Kathleen T. Horning" <horning at education.wisc.edu>
>Cc: CCBC-NET <ccbc-net at ccbc.education.wisc.edu>
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>Message: 7
>Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 16:01:07 EDT
>From: PamSHolley at aol.com
>Subject: Re: [CCBC-Net] Questions about the Odyssey Award
>To: SVardell at mail.twu.edu, gmkruse at wisc.edu,
> CCBC-Net at ccbc.education.wisc.edu
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>
>To follow up on Sylvia's information, the 2009 Odyssey Committee [the
>second year of the Odyssey Award] received over 350 titles which represented
>over 1862 hours of listening. Because of doubling up on many of the titles,
>committee members each listened to over 400 hours of assigned listening [I
>have no idea how many extra hours of listening were incurred by each member].
>
>Sylvia mentions the critical listening, which is a truly unique experience
>and will forever affect the way one listens to/hears an audiobook for ever
>after. When you sit down with no distractions and just listen to one disc,
>or for one hour--whatever works best for you--taking notes as you go, you'd
>be amazed at the minor glitches you hear. Normally you'd skim right over
>these mistakes as your brain has figured out what should be there based on
>the context of the story, but "critical listening" enables you to hear the
>breathing, pages being turned, and the misconnects between "he replied
>icily" and the narrator speaking normally. It's an exercise I'd recommend to
>everyone and one that was started by the 2008 Odyssey Committee's
>first chair,
>Mary Burkey.
>
>The Odyssey Award is given to the producer of the audiobook and the
>emphasis is on the production of the work. A look at the criteria page
>_http://www.ala.org/ala/mgrps/divs/yalsa/booklistsawards/odyssey/policies.cfm_
>(http://www.ala.org/ala/mgrps/divs/yalsa/booklistsawards/odyssey/policies.cfm)
>cites all the criteria, but the main areas on which a production is
>judged are
>the following:
>
> * excellence in narration;
> * excellence of audio interpretation of story, theme, or concept;
> * excellence of execution in the aural techniques of the medium;
> * excellence in the delineation through the audio medium of literary
>elements including plot, theme, characters, mood, setting, or information
>presented;
> * excellence in the appropriateness of technique or treatment to the
>story, theme, or concept.
>Odyssey is unique in that it's sponsored by Booklist [and is fortunate to
>have Sue-Ellen Beauregard as the Booklist Consultant] but administered by
>two divisions--ALSC and YALSA. Chair of the committee alternates between ALSC
>and YALSA and four committee members are appointed by ALSC and four by
>YALSA, for a total of nine members. The two divisions worked hard from the
>beginning to merge their ways of doing business so that Odyssey could be its
>own unique committee, while completing its work within the guidelines
>established by the initial task force.
>
>Though extremely time-consuming, serving on Odyssey is a very different but
> wonderful experience. We're all used to talking about books, but here the
>emphasis shifts to how the book is presented; if the narrator is a match
>for the story; whether or not the story flows with no long breaks or miscues
>or mispronounced works--in short, is it an excellent production?
>
>For me, having always worked with young adults, listening to the
>read-alouds was the highlight of the committee. Once you listen to
>I'm Dirty, one of
>the honor titles, or Martina the Beautiful Cockroach, you're hooked on
>these readalouds. I think I can speak for some of the ALSC members who learned
>how very long some of the YA titles can be. There's a lot of learning that
>goes on for members of both divisions. Though two divisions were
>represented, when the committee met I couldn't have told you who
>represented ALSC and
>who represented YALSA as we were united in one goal--selecting the best
>audiobook of the year. This committee represents the best of ALA with two
>divisions working together.
>
>Pam Spencer Holley, Chair
>2009 Odyssey Audiobook Award Committee
>
>In a message dated 4/10/2009 10:39:50 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>SVardell at mail.twu.edu writes:
>
>Ginny, I'm sure Merri will weigh in, as may other Odyssey committee
>members, but I was lucky enough to serve on the first committee and
>wrote about
>it in a brief article for BOOKLIST which is available online:
>
>http://www.booklistonline.com/default.aspx?page=show_product&pid=2806010
>
>Our committee evaluated 379 audiobooks, including approximately 70
>picture-book read-alongs.... The initial listening total was nearly
>2,000 hours,
>with each member listening nonstop for more than five full-time workweeks.
>Add to that our ?critical listening? of the final nominees, and the total
>was increased by 130 hours. We did indeed get input from a variety of
>people-- including kids, colleagues, and spouses (!)-- and would love to hear
>more from people who have had the chance to listen to our chosen titles, too.
>
>2008
>Award winner:
>Jazz, by Walter Dean Myers, narrated by James "D-Train" Williams and
>Vaneese Thomas, produced by Live Oak Media.
>
>Honor Audiobooks:
>Bloody Jack: Being an Account of the Curious Adventures of Mary "Jacky"
>Faber, Ship's Boy, by L.A. Meyer, narrated by Katherine Kellgren, produced by
>Listen & Live Audio
>Dooby Dooby Moo, by Doreen Cronin, narrated by Randy Travis, produced by
>Weston Woods/Scholastic
>Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, by J.K. Rowling, narrated by Jim
>Dale, produced by Listening Library
>Skulduggery Pleasant, by Derek Landy, narrated by Rupert Degas, produced
>by HarpherChildren's Audio
>Treasure Island, by Robert Louis Stevenson, narrated by Alfred Molina,
>produced by Listening Library
>
>In the year since the first award was announced, we have heard that sales
>for these titles have increased which paved the way for audio recordings of
>the NEXT books in the BLOODY JACK and SKULDUGGERY PLEASANT series-- which
>pleases us so much.
>
>
>Sylvia M. Vardell, Ph.D.
>Professor
>Texas Woman's University
>School of Library & Information Studies
>P O Box 425438
>Denton TX 76204-5438
>940-898-2616
>svardell at twu.edu
>http://poetryforchildren.blogspot.com/
>Co-Editor, BOOKBIRD, the journal of international children's literature
>(http://www.ibby.org)
>
>Author of:
>POETRY ALOUD HERE! SHARING POETRY WITH CHILDREN IN THE LIBRARY (ALA, 2006)
>POETRY PEOPLE; A PRACTICAL GUIDE TO CHILDREN'S POETS (Libraries Unlimited,
>2007)
>CHILDREN'S LITERATURE IN ACTION; A LIBRARIAN'S GUIDE (Libraries Unlimited,
>2008)
>BOOK LINKS columnist: Everyday Poetry
>
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: ccbc-net-bounces at lists.education.wisc.edu on behalf of Ginny Moore
>Kruse
>Sent: Thu 4/9/2009 12:29 PM
>To: CCBC-Net at ccbc.education.wisc.edu
>Subject: [CCBC-Net] Questions about the Odyssey Award
>
>I haven't had a chance to listen to any of these audiobooks, and that
>might be why others aren't chiming in - yet - with comments either.
>However, now that the topic is on the virtual table, it occurs to me to
>ask how the ALSC/YALSA Odyssey Award Committee does its work. Merri, you
>were a member of that committee a couple of years ago. Did anyone on the
>committee have a chance to get feedback from kids who had heard the
>audiobooks under consideration for the award? I'm also wondering
>approximately how many recorded books were eligible for the Odyssey
>Award when you were a member of the committee? What can you tell us
>about the process?
>
>Best, Ginny
>
>--
>Ginny Moore Kruse
>
>Emerita Director Cooperative Children's Book Center (CCBC)
>gmkruse at wisc.edu
>phone: 608.238.9225
>
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>Message: 8
>Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:08:01 -0500
>From: Debbie Reese <debreese at illinois.edu>
>Subject: [CCBC-Net] Just to clarify...
>To: ccbc-net at lists.education.wisc.edu
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>KT,
>
>Thanks for your response.
>
>I've touted the book on my site, in lectures, because I like it very much.
>
>The colleague who I was talking with is gay. Part
>of what spurred my email to ccbc is the news of
>the 11 year old boy in Massachusetts who
>committed suicide. News reports are that he was
>taunted as being gay. I thought again about the
>exchange between Rowdy and Junior where "faggot"
>is tossed about. My colleagues concern with the
>language, and the young boy's suicide, are
>colliding for me right now. Hence, I am thinking about the book.
>
>For the person who emailed me privately, I too am
>Native and have endured (and endure) the same
>struggles that Alexie has. Please know that
>raising this question unnerves me a great deal. I
>really really like Alexie's work. I've taught the
>book in my courses at UIUC, and for years I've
>been showing his film BUSINESS OF FANCYDANCING.
>
>My question should not be read as a suggestion
>that I think Alexie is homophobic. A big part of
>the joy I feel over his book is how realistic it
>is. I agree, my nephews talk just like Rowdy and
>Junior, but I don't WANT them to speak the word
>"faggot" as they do. I'm sounding hypocritical, aren't I?
>
>Debbie
>
>
>Visit my Internet resource:
>American Indians in Children's Literature
>http://americanindiansinchildrensliterature.net
>
>Debbie A. Reese (Namb? O'-ween-ge')
>Assistant Professor, American Indian Studies
>University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
>Native American House, Room 2005
>1204 West Nevada Street, MC-138
>Urbana, Illinois 61801
>
>Email: debreese at illinois.edu
>TEL 217-265-9885
>FAX 217-265-9880
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 9
>Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:29:41 -0500
>From: "Lesesne, Teri" <LIS_TSL at SHSU.EDU>
>Subject: Re: [CCBC-Net] Questions about the Odyssey Award
>To: "PamSHolley at aol.com" <PamSHolley at aol.com>, "SVardell at mail.twu.edu"
> <SVardell at mail.twu.edu>, "gmkruse at wisc.edu"
> <gmkruse at wisc.edu>,
> "CCBC-Net at ccbc.education.wisc.edu" <CCBC-Net at ccbc.education.wisc.edu>
>Message-ID:
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>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>I was fortunate enough to be a member of that first Odyssey
>Committee and I cannot tell you all how much I learned as a result
>of serving on a committee which, as Pam pointed out, listens
>critically to our assigned audios. We called it developing our
>Odyssey ears. Even now, as I listen to audio for the review column
>I do for VOYA (which I inherited from Pam, BTW), I find that my
>Odyssey ears pick up the tiniest flaws. For the column I do not
>feel the need to point out all the flaws. However, I have quit
>listening to an audio when the flaws mounted up and up.
>
>As for the audio winners for 2009, I am absolutely thrilled with the
>selections. While I had not had the chance to listen to the
>read-alongs, I did know the other audiobooks well. I am listening a
>second time to the Alexie narration and am just struck dumb with awe
>at how he, and he alone, I think, brings Junior to life. ELIJAH OF
>BUXTON was, I admit, my personal favorite of the audiobooks. That
>was not an easy or simple book to voice and this narrator was simply
>brilliant making Curtis' rhythm and dialect totally accessible to
>the listener. Katie Kellgren's narration for the Bloody Jack books
>is simply beyond belief. She manages all sorts of accents and even
>sings beautifully in these books. And NATION made me laugh out loud
>during my morning commute (and let me tell you how strangely folks
>look at you alone in a car laughing and/or crying uncontrollably).
>
>In addition to the stacks of books next to my bed, there are now
>stacks of audio in the car and many more to be downloaded onto my
>iPod. I can read with my eyes AND with my ears now.
>
>teri
>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>Teri S. Lesesne, Professor of Library Science
>Sam Houston State University
>Huntsville, TX
>doctorl at shsu.edu
>Author of MAKING THE MATCH and NAKED READING (Stenhouse)
>Winner of the 2007 ALAN Award
>
>
>Blog site: http://professornana.livejournal.com
>Web Site: www.professornana.com
>________________________________________
>From: ccbc-net-bounces at lists.education.wisc.edu
>[ccbc-net-bounces at lists.education.wisc.edu] On Behalf
>
>To follow up on Sylvia's information, the 2009 Odyssey Committee [the
>second year of the Odyssey Award] received over 350 titles which represented
>over 1862 hours of listening. Because of doubling up on many of the titles,
>committee members each listened to over 400 hours of assigned listening [I
>have no idea how many extra hours of listening were incurred by each member].
>
>Sylvia mentions the critical listening, which is a truly unique experience
>and will forever affect the way one listens to/hears an audiobook for ever
>after. When you sit down with no distractions and just listen to one disc,
>or for one hour--whatever works best for you--taking notes as you go, you'd
>be amazed at the minor glitches you hear. Normally you'd skim right over
>these mistakes as your brain has figured out what should be there based on
>the context of the story, but "critical listening" enables you to hear the
>breathing, pages being turned, and the misconnects between "he replied
>icily" and the narrator speaking normally. It's an exercise I'd recommend to
>everyone and one that was started by the 2008 Odyssey Committee's
>first chair,
>Mary Burkey.
>
>
>Pam Spencer Holley, Chair
>2009 Odyssey Audiobook Award Committee
>
>In a message dated 4/10/2009 10:39:50 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>SVardell at mail.twu.edu writes:
>
>Ginny, I'm sure Merri will weigh in, as may other Odyssey committee
>members, but I was lucky enough to serve on the first committee and
>wrote about
>it in a brief article for BOOKLIST which is available online:
>
>http://www.booklistonline.com/default.aspx?page=show_product&pid=2806010
>
>Sylvia M. Vardell, Ph.D.
>Professor
>Texas Woman's University
>School of Library & Information Studies
>P O Box 425438
>Denton TX 76204-5438
>940-898-2616
>svardell at twu.edu
>http://poetryforchildren.blogspot.com/
>Co-Editor, BOOKBIRD, the journal of international children's literature
>(http://www.ibby.org)
>
>Author of:
>POETRY ALOUD HERE! SHARING POETRY WITH CHILDREN IN THE LIBRARY (ALA, 2006)
>POETRY PEOPLE; A PRACTICAL GUIDE TO CHILDREN'S POETS (Libraries Unlimited,
>2007)
>CHILDREN'S LITERATURE IN ACTION; A LIBRARIAN'S GUIDE (Libraries Unlimited,
>2008)
>BOOK LINKS columnist: Everyday Poetry
>
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: ccbc-net-bounces at lists.education.wisc.edu on behalf of Ginny Moore
>Kruse
>Sent: Thu 4/9/2009 12:29 PM
>To: CCBC-Net at ccbc.education.wisc.edu
>Subject: [CCBC-Net] Questions about the Odyssey Award
>
>I haven't had a chance to listen to any of these audiobooks, and that
>might be why others aren't chiming in - yet - with comments either.
>However, now that the topic is on the virtual table, it occurs to me to
>ask how the ALSC/YALSA Odyssey Award Committee does its work. Merri, you
>were a member of that committee a couple of years ago. Did anyone on the
>committee have a chance to get feedback from kids who had heard the
>audiobooks under consideration for the award? I'm also wondering
>approximately how many recorded books were eligible for the Odyssey
>Award when you were a member of the committee? What can you tell us
>about the process?
>
>Best, Ginny
>
>--
>Ginny Moore Kruse
>
>Emerita Director Cooperative Children's Book Center (CCBC)
>gmkruse at wisc.edu
>phone: 608.238.9225
>
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>Message: 10
>Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 13:34:58 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Wendy Burton <burtonwl at yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: [CCBC-Net] Just to clarify...
>To: Debbie Reese <debreese at illinois.edu>,
> ccbc-net at lists.education.wisc.edu
>Message-ID: <759929.82350.qm at web30202.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
>
>Debbie, I don't think you're sounding hypocritical at
>all, and I appreciate your writing about an issue
>you're still struggling with.
>
>I confess that I haven't read this book yet, though
>I'm probably going to start it today or tomorrow!--but
>based on what people have said here, I'm getting an
>idea of where the controversy stems from (but am
>trying to withhold judgment until I read the book).
>
>I see a strong parallel here between Alexie's use of
>"faggot" as, yes, a typical and sometimes friendly
>slur used between boys, and the use of racist slurs
>about American Indians used in many of the books you
>criticize. I know people say all the time that the
>vocabulary used about American Indians in those books
>is accurate to what people would have said, but it's
>still troublesome. I'm stealing from my own future
>blog post here, but: I used to think the use of those
>slurs in old books didn't matter much, especially when
>taken in context. I thought, "kids know better than
>to say things like that"--I did, when I was a kid.
>Then I read an anecdote on your site about the movie
>Pocahontas--it contains a song with the lyrics
>"savages--barely even human". The song is very
>clearly meant to show that the Jamestown colonists
>were bad and racist, and I believe almost all children
>understand that. Yet that song was STILL, in the
>anecdote recounted, used to taunt an American Indian
>girl on the playground.
>
>The people who wrote the song surely meant it in the
>best possible way; surely they thought they were
>teaching kids a lesson about our less-than-heroic
>colonial ancestors. Perhaps they did--but what they
>ALSO did was put those words, "savages--barely even
>human", in children's mouths. It doesn't matter at
>that point how the lyrics were meant; only how they're
>being used.
>
>To return to Alexie and the word "faggot"--yes,
>accurate to some groups of children (I can't tell you
>how much trouble my brothers would have gotten in if
>they had ever said such a thing and my parents heard
>about it, and I don't think they would have said it),
>but is it necessary for the story? Is it legitimizing
>the use of these words in a negative context? Or does
>it make an effort toward normalizing the term, so that
>for a moment at least, that "insult" doesn't seem like
>much of an insult at all? (I've been called similar
>things since I was a teenager, and once I was old
>enough to have a little perspective, I just laughed
>and said "Do you really think that's some kind of
>insult?") These are the questions I'll be asking
>myself as I read the book.
>
>It is always hard when a bit of doubt sneaks in about
>a book that we love (and sometimes, a book we happen
>to be quite invested in). I know that that's happened
>to me many times, whether the issue is racism,
>homophobia, sexism, or just plain inaccuracy.
>
>Wendy
>burtonwl at yahoo.com
>http://sixboxesofbooks.blogspot.com
>
>--- Debbie Reese <debreese at illinois.edu> wrote:
>
> > KT,
> >
> > Thanks for your response.
> >
> > I've touted the book on my site, in lectures,
> > because I like it very much.
> >
> > The colleague who I was talking with is gay. Part
> > of what spurred my email to ccbc is the news of
> > the 11 year old boy in Massachusetts who
> > committed suicide. News reports are that he was
> > taunted as being gay. I thought again about the
> > exchange between Rowdy and Junior where "faggot"
> > is tossed about. My colleagues concern with the
> > language, and the young boy's suicide, are
> > colliding for me right now. Hence, I am thinking
> > about the book.
> >
> > For the person who emailed me privately, I too am
> > Native and have endured (and endure) the same
> > struggles that Alexie has. Please know that
> > raising this question unnerves me a great deal. I
> > really really like Alexie's work. I've taught the
> > book in my courses at UIUC, and for years I've
> > been showing his film BUSINESS OF FANCYDANCING.
> >
> > My question should not be read as a suggestion
> > that I think Alexie is homophobic. A big part of
> > the joy I feel over his book is how realistic it
> > is. I agree, my nephews talk just like Rowdy and
> > Junior, but I don't WANT them to speak the word
> > "faggot" as they do. I'm sounding hypocritical,
> > aren't I?
> >
> > Debbie
> >
> >
> > Visit my Internet resource:
> > American Indians in Children's Literature
> > http://americanindiansinchildrensliterature.net
> >
> > Debbie A. Reese (Namb??? O'-ween-ge')
> > Assistant Professor, American Indian Studies
> > University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
> > Native American House, Room 2005
> > 1204 West Nevada Street, MC-138
> > Urbana, Illinois 61801
> >
> > Email: debreese at illinois.edu
> > TEL 217-265-9885
> > FAX 217-265-9880
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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>Message: 11
>Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 22:26:19 -0500
>From: Elsa Marston <elsa.marston at gmail.com>
>Subject: [CCBC-Net] Name-calling
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>I don't know whether this is getting too off-subject or not; I just want to
>say I'm saving the interesting comments by Debbie Reese and Wendy Burton on
>"name-calling" because they seem relevant to my own main literary concern
>(as writer and specialist-of-sorts), which is Arab and Arab-American kids,
>who are often subject to ethnic slurs.
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>Do others of you on the CCBC list have observations about whether kids take
>what they read in *books* (fiction) more seriously than what they hear in
>movies, TV, etc.? Do books seem to sanction certain behavior more than
>other forms of entertainment do?
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>Elsa
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>Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 05:39:13 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Tater Tot <tatertot22us at yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: [CCBC-Net] Name-calling
>To: ccbc-net at ccbc.education.wisc.edu, Elsa Marston
> <elsa.marston at gmail.com>
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>Hello Elsa,
>About name-calling in books versus movies, tv ... in any way, it's
>terrible to be the one who has the names hurled his/her way. Books
>historically have preserved the words. Now TV and movies make the
>pronounciation easily available. With songs (and not just rap),DVDs,
>film, reruns, U Tube, etc. accessible, this media allow children to
>hear words words as well as show what the victim's reaction is, in full color.
>Children who are not familiar with certain negative words can
>quickly pick them up this way. They might gloss over them in books.
>Some words are so negative that sometimes some victims of the
>targeted ethnic group embrace them, thinking that saying such words
>negates the impact, not realizing that they're merely helping to
>spread and condone them.
>Scholars sometimes use these words in print or verbally, thinking
>that as scholars they're outside the rhelm, merely approaching the
>controversary from an intellectual level. However, they share the
>responsibility of validating such words. I seen and heard writers
>use the "N" word during readings, as if they've been empowered by
>having used it.
>Eleanora E. Tate, Author of the award-winning YA Novel
>Celeste's Harlem Renaissance
>
>
>--- On Fri, 4/10/09, Elsa Marston <elsa.marston at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > From: Elsa Marston <elsa.marston at gmail.com>
> > Subject: [CCBC-Net] Name-calling
> > To: ccbc-net at ccbc.education.wisc.edu
> > Date: Friday, April 10, 2009, 11:26 PM
> > I don't know whether this is getting too off-subject or
> > not; I just want to
> > say I'm saving the interesting comments by Debbie Reese
> > and Wendy Burton on
> > "name-calling" because they seem relevant to my
> > own main literary concern
> > (as writer and specialist-of-sorts), which is Arab and
> > Arab-American kids,
> > who are often subject to ethnic slurs.
> >
> > Do others of you on the CCBC list have observations about
> > whether kids take
> > what they read in *books* (fiction) more seriously than
> > what they hear in
> > movies, TV, etc.? Do books seem to sanction certain
> > behavior more than
> > other forms of entertainment do?
> >
> > Elsa
> > www.elsamarston.com
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