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From: Anastasia Suen <asuen>
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 16:00:09 -0600
Yes, nonfiction books have plots! A narrative isn't the only way to organize the actions or ideas in a book. Anastasia (who is working on 4 talks for teachers next week about this very topic. Did you know that 85% of what we read as adults is nonfiction?)
Anastasia Suen http://www.asuen.com
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 2:09 PM, <scorbett1 at aol.com> wrote:
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>
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> Wendy (and JHunt), the words that struck me were "delineation of plot." Do
> nonfiction books have plots? They may have narrative arcs; they may tell a
> story that reads like it was plotted, but . . . surely the Caldecott
> criteria wouldn't be written to eliminate plotless books, including
> nonfiction? I guess you could expand the common definition of plot to
> include the story a historian crafts from the record but I don't think
> that's what we think of when we use the word plot.
>
> And, anyway, I think Nelson's paintings absoletely do exhibit excellence in
> interpreting the story and theme of his narrative. They sure set a mood and
> they definitely convey information.?Still shaking my head, I'm afraid.
>
> sue
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hunt, Jonathan <Hunt.Jo at monet.k12.ca.us>
> To: ccbc-net at ccbc.education.wisc.edu
> Sent: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 2:19 pm
> Subject: [CCBC-Net] We Are the Ship
>
>
>
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> Wendy wrote--
>
> "I'd agree that the art in WE ARE THE SHIP is the most
> accomplished and distinguished that we saw this year,
> but I wasn't surprised when it wasn't honored for the
> Caldecott. After I read the Caldecott criteria, I
> didn't think it met this one: "Excellence of pictorial
> interpretation of story, theme, or concept; of
> appropriateness of style of illustration to the story,
> theme or concept; of delineation of plot, theme,
> characters, setting mood or information through the
> pictures."
>
> "The pictures are gorgeous, but they don't tell a story
> in the same way some of the others do."
>
> But I don't think what you quote above says that the pictures need to
> tell a story. The way I read it is that the pictures can interpret a
> story OR a theme OR a concept. I don't think the illustrations in WE
> ARE THE SHIP interpret story, but I do think they interpret theme and
> concept.
>
> Jonathan
>
Received on Fri 06 Feb 2009 04:00:09 PM CST
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 16:00:09 -0600
Yes, nonfiction books have plots! A narrative isn't the only way to organize the actions or ideas in a book. Anastasia (who is working on 4 talks for teachers next week about this very topic. Did you know that 85% of what we read as adults is nonfiction?)
Anastasia Suen http://www.asuen.com
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 2:09 PM, <scorbett1 at aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Wendy (and JHunt), the words that struck me were "delineation of plot." Do
> nonfiction books have plots? They may have narrative arcs; they may tell a
> story that reads like it was plotted, but . . . surely the Caldecott
> criteria wouldn't be written to eliminate plotless books, including
> nonfiction? I guess you could expand the common definition of plot to
> include the story a historian crafts from the record but I don't think
> that's what we think of when we use the word plot.
>
> And, anyway, I think Nelson's paintings absoletely do exhibit excellence in
> interpreting the story and theme of his narrative. They sure set a mood and
> they definitely convey information.?Still shaking my head, I'm afraid.
>
> sue
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hunt, Jonathan <Hunt.Jo at monet.k12.ca.us>
> To: ccbc-net at ccbc.education.wisc.edu
> Sent: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 2:19 pm
> Subject: [CCBC-Net] We Are the Ship
>
>
>
>
> Wendy wrote--
>
> "I'd agree that the art in WE ARE THE SHIP is the most
> accomplished and distinguished that we saw this year,
> but I wasn't surprised when it wasn't honored for the
> Caldecott. After I read the Caldecott criteria, I
> didn't think it met this one: "Excellence of pictorial
> interpretation of story, theme, or concept; of
> appropriateness of style of illustration to the story,
> theme or concept; of delineation of plot, theme,
> characters, setting mood or information through the
> pictures."
>
> "The pictures are gorgeous, but they don't tell a story
> in the same way some of the others do."
>
> But I don't think what you quote above says that the pictures need to
> tell a story. The way I read it is that the pictures can interpret a
> story OR a theme OR a concept. I don't think the illustrations in WE
> ARE THE SHIP interpret story, but I do think they interpret theme and
> concept.
>
> Jonathan
>
Received on Fri 06 Feb 2009 04:00:09 PM CST
