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From: leonardsma at aol.com <leonardsma>
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:37:08 -0400
What a touching message. People sometimes confuse history with nostagia and assume it has nothing much to do with them. But history isn't detached from the present, it's the subsoil and foundation of the present, and it aims at being a true account, rather than a merely pleasing and comforting one. I think everyone benefits from realizing their part in a larger tradition.
Leonard S. Marcus
54 Willow Street, #2A
Brooklyn, New York 11201
tel 718 596-1897
e-mail leonardsma at aol.com
web www.leonardmarcus.com
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From: Hollis Rudiger <hrudiger at mac.com>
To: ccbc-net <ccbc-net at ccbc.education.wisc.edu>
Sent: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:24 am
Subject: Re: [CCBC-Net] Thank you
Another angle to the "thank yous" and to the idea that this was a mini course in History, is what I have come to learn about my own responsibility to keep learning and and the paucity of this kind of knowledge/information in library school, and the effect that that absence has on current practice. And our current collective memory about who we are and why we do what we do. Thank you, Mr Marcus, for calling me out of my day to day stupor to think about these things. My LS training was so largely focused on the practical aspects of children's librarianship, I really never had any coursework on the context out of which current trends, traditions and practices have come. My projects and assignments were all designed to be things "I would one day use, or show off in a job interview...." Many of the names that have come up in the discussion (and in the book) are names I have never heard, and I am, frankly, embarrassed that this shoul
d all be so new to me. I also have a teaching degree (gr 7-12 English and Spanish) and while my context there, in education, is much better, it still lacks the insight and analysis that this discussion has provoked. Sure, I have seen some great photographs of Caldecott and Newbery Dinners of old, where attendees appeared in black (or white!) tie, cigarettes dangling, cocktails vanishing, and have heard stories at various ALA dinners and events, from "people who knew people" first hand, but my fear is that the nature of LIS education is changing in such a way that this kind of knowledge is not transferring down as it should be to the next generation of Minders-- who are they/we? And what is our responsibility to formally teach or to provide access to this kind of scholarship? to DO things worthy of this kind of study down the road? Mentoring is more important than ever if we wish that brand new librarians enter the profession with
tradition well understood and considered even as we make huge pro
gress in the ways we can serve children's literacy and imagination needs. Is there room in LIS education for more history? Who will be the Minders our great grand children will owe for their reading and learning pleasure? These are rhetorical, of course, as I respect the timeline for this discussion, but I couldn't not thank the entire CCBC-Net community for provoking these thoughts, for piping up with stories and anecdotes, for asking hard questions, for acknowledging the roles you have had in others' formation. (Now I know who to sit by at future ALA events!) Hollis Rudiger Madison, WI On Jul 30, 2008, at 9:03 AM, Sally Miller wrote: > I wouldn't feel right not adding my thank-you to all the others for > a fascinating two-week discussion, Mr. Marcus. You have confirmed > my long-held belief that librarians are the best friends a writer > or teacher can have. > > My copy of Minders is already well-thumbed.
Sincerely, Sally Derby > > No Mush Today September 2008 > _______________________________________________ > CCBC-Net mailing list > CCBC-Net at ccbc.education.wisc.edu > Visit this link to read archives or to unsubscribe... > http://ccbc.education.wisc.edu/mailman/listinfo/ccbc-net _______________________________________________ CCBC-Net mailing list CCBC-Net at ccbc.education.wisc.edu Visit this link to read archives or to unsubscribe... http://ccbc.education.wisc.edu/mailman/listinfo/ccbc-net
Received on Wed 30 Jul 2008 09:37:08 AM CDT
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:37:08 -0400
What a touching message. People sometimes confuse history with nostagia and assume it has nothing much to do with them. But history isn't detached from the present, it's the subsoil and foundation of the present, and it aims at being a true account, rather than a merely pleasing and comforting one. I think everyone benefits from realizing their part in a larger tradition.
Leonard S. Marcus
54 Willow Street, #2A
Brooklyn, New York 11201
tel 718 596-1897
e-mail leonardsma at aol.com
web www.leonardmarcus.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Hollis Rudiger <hrudiger at mac.com>
To: ccbc-net <ccbc-net at ccbc.education.wisc.edu>
Sent: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:24 am
Subject: Re: [CCBC-Net] Thank you
Another angle to the "thank yous" and to the idea that this was a mini course in History, is what I have come to learn about my own responsibility to keep learning and and the paucity of this kind of knowledge/information in library school, and the effect that that absence has on current practice. And our current collective memory about who we are and why we do what we do. Thank you, Mr Marcus, for calling me out of my day to day stupor to think about these things. My LS training was so largely focused on the practical aspects of children's librarianship, I really never had any coursework on the context out of which current trends, traditions and practices have come. My projects and assignments were all designed to be things "I would one day use, or show off in a job interview...." Many of the names that have come up in the discussion (and in the book) are names I have never heard, and I am, frankly, embarrassed that this shoul
d all be so new to me. I also have a teaching degree (gr 7-12 English and Spanish) and while my context there, in education, is much better, it still lacks the insight and analysis that this discussion has provoked. Sure, I have seen some great photographs of Caldecott and Newbery Dinners of old, where attendees appeared in black (or white!) tie, cigarettes dangling, cocktails vanishing, and have heard stories at various ALA dinners and events, from "people who knew people" first hand, but my fear is that the nature of LIS education is changing in such a way that this kind of knowledge is not transferring down as it should be to the next generation of Minders-- who are they/we? And what is our responsibility to formally teach or to provide access to this kind of scholarship? to DO things worthy of this kind of study down the road? Mentoring is more important than ever if we wish that brand new librarians enter the profession with
tradition well understood and considered even as we make huge pro
gress in the ways we can serve children's literacy and imagination needs. Is there room in LIS education for more history? Who will be the Minders our great grand children will owe for their reading and learning pleasure? These are rhetorical, of course, as I respect the timeline for this discussion, but I couldn't not thank the entire CCBC-Net community for provoking these thoughts, for piping up with stories and anecdotes, for asking hard questions, for acknowledging the roles you have had in others' formation. (Now I know who to sit by at future ALA events!) Hollis Rudiger Madison, WI On Jul 30, 2008, at 9:03 AM, Sally Miller wrote: > I wouldn't feel right not adding my thank-you to all the others for > a fascinating two-week discussion, Mr. Marcus. You have confirmed > my long-held belief that librarians are the best friends a writer > or teacher can have. > > My copy of Minders is already well-thumbed.
Sincerely, Sally Derby > > No Mush Today September 2008 > _______________________________________________ > CCBC-Net mailing list > CCBC-Net at ccbc.education.wisc.edu > Visit this link to read archives or to unsubscribe... > http://ccbc.education.wisc.edu/mailman/listinfo/ccbc-net _______________________________________________ CCBC-Net mailing list CCBC-Net at ccbc.education.wisc.edu Visit this link to read archives or to unsubscribe... http://ccbc.education.wisc.edu/mailman/listinfo/ccbc-net
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