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From: Donna MacKinney <dlmackinney>
Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 14:27:33 -0800 (PST)
I noticed the Baker-Baker thing and wondered if I misread something earlier in the book but didn't take the time to figure it out.
I don't know about "average" 7th graders (although I do have 7th graders who are in theater and they love doing Shakespeare) but maybe Holling wasn't really average - he makes a point of telling us that he's read Treasure Island, Kidnapped, Ivanhoe (part way:), and The Call of the Wild. While many 7th graders would be capable of reading those books, I don't know that many would read and re-read them voluntarily. Maybe it was more likely during the 60's pre-computer and video game distractions.
Prior to the beginning of his Shakespearean Phase he used unusual language..."Negligent Playground Monitor," "Day of Dread and Doom," and other non-7th grade phrases. So maybe "pied ninny" wasn't that big of a stretch for Holling and we know he liked to fly under the radar:) I recall that while I certainly heard real cursing in the halls in junior high (I was in 7th grade in 1967), the penalty if caught, and to some extent the stigma, was greater then than it is now.
A 6th grade teacher and I were talking about the book and reading parts aloud - the eavesdropping kids got quite interested and now it has a list of student holds on it. My theater teacher has ordered a copy and plans to use it in class. I don't think it is going to be everyone's cup of tea here, but suspect it will hit find some popularity.
Donna MacKinney
Rice Middle School
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There was a lot about this book that I liked, but aside from the question of whether an average 7th grader would understand Shakespeare that readily, I also was distracted by a niggling thing. Did anyone else notice this? Mrs. Baker was married to Lt. Baker, thus creating the assumption that Baker was her married name. The store, though, was referred to as her family business, but it was Baker Sports Emporium and run by her brother. I couldn't get my mind around this. If she was a Baker who married a Baker, wouldn't this oddity have been mentioned in the book? If I missed something obvious and someone could explain this to me, it would make me feel better.
Faith Brautigam Gail Borden Public Library Elgin, IL
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Received on Mon 07 Jan 2008 04:27:33 PM CST
Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 14:27:33 -0800 (PST)
I noticed the Baker-Baker thing and wondered if I misread something earlier in the book but didn't take the time to figure it out.
I don't know about "average" 7th graders (although I do have 7th graders who are in theater and they love doing Shakespeare) but maybe Holling wasn't really average - he makes a point of telling us that he's read Treasure Island, Kidnapped, Ivanhoe (part way:), and The Call of the Wild. While many 7th graders would be capable of reading those books, I don't know that many would read and re-read them voluntarily. Maybe it was more likely during the 60's pre-computer and video game distractions.
Prior to the beginning of his Shakespearean Phase he used unusual language..."Negligent Playground Monitor," "Day of Dread and Doom," and other non-7th grade phrases. So maybe "pied ninny" wasn't that big of a stretch for Holling and we know he liked to fly under the radar:) I recall that while I certainly heard real cursing in the halls in junior high (I was in 7th grade in 1967), the penalty if caught, and to some extent the stigma, was greater then than it is now.
A 6th grade teacher and I were talking about the book and reading parts aloud - the eavesdropping kids got quite interested and now it has a list of student holds on it. My theater teacher has ordered a copy and plans to use it in class. I don't think it is going to be everyone's cup of tea here, but suspect it will hit find some popularity.
Donna MacKinney
Rice Middle School
From: "Faith Brautigam" Subject: Re: [CCBC-Net] Wednesday Wars To: Message-ID: <001c01c85151$fc7f2150$9920a8c0 at gailb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
There was a lot about this book that I liked, but aside from the question of whether an average 7th grader would understand Shakespeare that readily, I also was distracted by a niggling thing. Did anyone else notice this? Mrs. Baker was married to Lt. Baker, thus creating the assumption that Baker was her married name. The store, though, was referred to as her family business, but it was Baker Sports Emporium and run by her brother. I couldn't get my mind around this. If she was a Baker who married a Baker, wouldn't this oddity have been mentioned in the book? If I missed something obvious and someone could explain this to me, it would make me feel better.
Faith Brautigam Gail Borden Public Library Elgin, IL
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