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From: Christina McTighe <christina.mctighe>
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:15:06 -0500
I began the books in 6th grade, I believe, and read the Amber Spyglass as an 8th grader. I remember being deeply moved (bawling, actually) at the relationships between the characters, but not so much the religious sentiments. I happen to be a Christian, and at the time, I was the girl who fought the middle school science teacher on evolution. I do remember thinking, though, as I was reading, that it was a shame that Pullman had to call the First Angel by the name of God, because it wasn't any God that I recognized, and I feel the same way now.
A friend of mine recieved the same conservative email, and it really doesn't make any sense. Do we not teach children about King Arthur because Thomas Mallory may have been a rapist? Do they not read Alice in Wonderland because Carroll may have been involved in pedophilia? Then why should parents try and take a wonderful, moving story away from their children because the author doesn't believe in the same things that they do. Granted, perhaps it's a bit different when it comes to religion, I don't know and I'm not a parent. But it just seems silly.
On Nov 14, 2007 1:51 PM, Wendy Lanehart <WLanehart at crrl.org> wrote:
> I used to get very annoyed when movies did not live up to the book, but
> finally came to the acceptance that the movie and the book are two
> different
> things.
>
> I'm curious if anyone else has had any comment over the upcoming
> release of The Golden Compass, re Phillip Pullman being an atheist and the
> series out to "corrupt" young minds? First, I got an email from a
> conservative neighbor with a link to an Internet site outlining the
> insidiousness of Pullman's novels! I simply didn't respond to it,
> although
> thought it might be fun to tell her we had a display at the library! We
> made a fantasy display of The Dark is Rising, His Dark Materials, and
> Spiderwick for the children's room. My boss said a woman the other day
> asked WHY we had The Golden Compass on display, commented that if Pullman
> was attacking any other religion, the book wouldn't be on display. I also
> had another patron who asked me about the book; I guess she'd gotten the
> e-mail and was curious. She put the book on hold.
>
> Personally, I will probably see the movie because I am curious. I
> liked The Golden Compass but didn't enjoy the other two in the trilogy, in
> fact, I didn't finish the last one. I don't think they're really for
> children, but most young adults reading them wouldn't necessarily get the
> anti-religious allegory anyway.
>
> Wendy Lanehart
> Children's Librarian
> Central Rappahannock Regional Library
>
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> PLEAE CONSIDERING ATTENDING NCTE FOR THIS EXCITING
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> Emily Jenkins (author)
> Dan Yaccarino (author/illustrator)
> Phil Bildner (author)
> Cari Best (author)
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> finest and most memorable children?s literature
> produced. This workshop will feature a celebration of
> New York City in children's literature. Audience
> members will have the opportunity to hear a dozen
> children?s authors and illustrators speak about New
> York City as a setting for their books and reflect on
> how living in New York has influenced their creative
> and professional lives. They will discuss and read
> from their works?both familiar and new?and will answer
> questions from the audience about living the writer?s
> and artist?s life in New York. Teachers and professors
> of children?s literature who attend this session will
> gain an insider?s view (from the perspective of author
> or illustrator) for sharing with their students books
> created by the following participants: Cari Best, Phil
> Bildner, Jessie Hartland, Emily Jenkins, William Low,
> Leonard Marcus, Roxie Munro, Christopher Myers, Robert
> Neubecker, Brian Selznick, Jordan Sonnenblick, and Dan
> Yaccarino. Anyone who loves children?s literature or
> loves New York City will love this workshop!
>
>
>
> Lesley Colabucci, Ph.D.
> Assistant Professor
> Elementary and Early Childhood Education
> Millersville University of Pennsylvania
> PO Box 1002
> Millersville, PA 17551-0302
>
> 164 W. Cottage Avenue
> 206 Stayer Hall
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> Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 06:45:43 -0500
> From: "Monica Edinger" <monicaedinger at gmail.com>
> Subject: [CCBC-Net] Sequels and Awards (pardon the cross-posting)
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> Jonathan Hunt's timely Horn Book article, "Epic Fantasy Meets Sequel
> Prejudice" (http://www.hbook.com/magazine/articles/2007/nov07_hunt.asp)
> inspired me to write a blog post on the issue (
>
> http://medinger.wordpress.com/2007/11/03/thoughts-on-newbery-what-about-sequ
> els/)
> and an interesting conversation is now going on in the comments. Please
> come and join in!
>
> Monica
>
> --
> Monica Edinger
> Newbery 2008
> Chair Notable Children's Books in the Language Arts 2007
> The Dalton School
> New York NY
> edinger at dalton.org
> monicaedinger at gmail.com
> my blog educating alice is at http://medinger.wordpress.com
>
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Received on Wed 14 Nov 2007 01:15:06 PM CST
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:15:06 -0500
I began the books in 6th grade, I believe, and read the Amber Spyglass as an 8th grader. I remember being deeply moved (bawling, actually) at the relationships between the characters, but not so much the religious sentiments. I happen to be a Christian, and at the time, I was the girl who fought the middle school science teacher on evolution. I do remember thinking, though, as I was reading, that it was a shame that Pullman had to call the First Angel by the name of God, because it wasn't any God that I recognized, and I feel the same way now.
A friend of mine recieved the same conservative email, and it really doesn't make any sense. Do we not teach children about King Arthur because Thomas Mallory may have been a rapist? Do they not read Alice in Wonderland because Carroll may have been involved in pedophilia? Then why should parents try and take a wonderful, moving story away from their children because the author doesn't believe in the same things that they do. Granted, perhaps it's a bit different when it comes to religion, I don't know and I'm not a parent. But it just seems silly.
On Nov 14, 2007 1:51 PM, Wendy Lanehart <WLanehart at crrl.org> wrote:
> I used to get very annoyed when movies did not live up to the book, but
> finally came to the acceptance that the movie and the book are two
> different
> things.
>
> I'm curious if anyone else has had any comment over the upcoming
> release of The Golden Compass, re Phillip Pullman being an atheist and the
> series out to "corrupt" young minds? First, I got an email from a
> conservative neighbor with a link to an Internet site outlining the
> insidiousness of Pullman's novels! I simply didn't respond to it,
> although
> thought it might be fun to tell her we had a display at the library! We
> made a fantasy display of The Dark is Rising, His Dark Materials, and
> Spiderwick for the children's room. My boss said a woman the other day
> asked WHY we had The Golden Compass on display, commented that if Pullman
> was attacking any other religion, the book wouldn't be on display. I also
> had another patron who asked me about the book; I guess she'd gotten the
> e-mail and was curious. She put the book on hold.
>
> Personally, I will probably see the movie because I am curious. I
> liked The Golden Compass but didn't enjoy the other two in the trilogy, in
> fact, I didn't finish the last one. I don't think they're really for
> children, but most young adults reading them wouldn't necessarily get the
> anti-religious allegory anyway.
>
> Wendy Lanehart
> Children's Librarian
> Central Rappahannock Regional Library
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> To: ccbc-net at ccbc.education.wisc.edu
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>
>
> Today's Topics:
>
> 1. Workshop in NYC (Lesley Colabucci)
> 2. Sequels and Awards (pardon the cross-posting) (Monica Edinger)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 12:28:17 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Lesley Colabucci <lcolabucci at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [CCBC-Net] Workshop in NYC
> To: ccbc-net at ccbc.education.wisc.edu
> Message-ID: <828833.37273.qm at web51402.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> PLEAE CONSIDERING ATTENDING NCTE FOR THIS EXCITING
> WORKSHOP FEATURING:
> Leonard Marcus (author)
> Roxie Munro (author/illustrator)
> Robert Neubecker (author/illustrator)
> William Low (author/illustrator)
> Emily Jenkins (author)
> Dan Yaccarino (author/illustrator)
> Phil Bildner (author)
> Cari Best (author)
> Christopher Myers (author/illustrator)
> Jessie Hartland (author/illustrator)
> Jordan Sonnenblick (author)
> Brian Selznick (author/illustrator)
>
> Register:
> http://www.ncte.org/profdev/conv/annual/workshops
>
> CLA 2007 Workshop
> Celebrating New York City in Children?s Literature
>
> Description
>
> New York City has been an inspiration for some of the
> finest and most memorable children?s literature
> produced. This workshop will feature a celebration of
> New York City in children's literature. Audience
> members will have the opportunity to hear a dozen
> children?s authors and illustrators speak about New
> York City as a setting for their books and reflect on
> how living in New York has influenced their creative
> and professional lives. They will discuss and read
> from their works?both familiar and new?and will answer
> questions from the audience about living the writer?s
> and artist?s life in New York. Teachers and professors
> of children?s literature who attend this session will
> gain an insider?s view (from the perspective of author
> or illustrator) for sharing with their students books
> created by the following participants: Cari Best, Phil
> Bildner, Jessie Hartland, Emily Jenkins, William Low,
> Leonard Marcus, Roxie Munro, Christopher Myers, Robert
> Neubecker, Brian Selznick, Jordan Sonnenblick, and Dan
> Yaccarino. Anyone who loves children?s literature or
> loves New York City will love this workshop!
>
>
>
> Lesley Colabucci, Ph.D.
> Assistant Professor
> Elementary and Early Childhood Education
> Millersville University of Pennsylvania
> PO Box 1002
> Millersville, PA 17551-0302
>
> 164 W. Cottage Avenue
> 206 Stayer Hall
>
> (717) 871-5462 (fax)
> (717) 871-5618 (office)
>
> lesley.colabucci at millersville.edu
>
> __________________________________________________
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 06:45:43 -0500
> From: "Monica Edinger" <monicaedinger at gmail.com>
> Subject: [CCBC-Net] Sequels and Awards (pardon the cross-posting)
> To: Childlit <child_lit at email.rutgers.edu>, adbooks at yahoogroups.com,
> "ccbc-net, Subscribers of" <ccbc-net at lists.education.wisc.edu>
> Message-ID:
> <3985ae260711040345i5b43aef9l55103433e9bf2489 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Jonathan Hunt's timely Horn Book article, "Epic Fantasy Meets Sequel
> Prejudice" (http://www.hbook.com/magazine/articles/2007/nov07_hunt.asp)
> inspired me to write a blog post on the issue (
>
> http://medinger.wordpress.com/2007/11/03/thoughts-on-newbery-what-about-sequ
> els/)
> and an interesting conversation is now going on in the comments. Please
> come and join in!
>
> Monica
>
> --
> Monica Edinger
> Newbery 2008
> Chair Notable Children's Books in the Language Arts 2007
> The Dalton School
> New York NY
> edinger at dalton.org
> monicaedinger at gmail.com
> my blog educating alice is at http://medinger.wordpress.com
>
>
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