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[CCBC-Net] Another option if you haven't read Harry 7

From: Sherif, Sue <sue.sherif>
Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2007 13:30:28 -0800

I just read K.T.'s message that suggested unsubscribing or avoiding reading messages and have another option that employ frequent. Save the email messages (or filter them if your email allows) to a separate folder and then go back and read the CCBC discussion when you've finished HP7.

We do have all the modern conveniences here, but sometimes new books come to us a little bit slower, so I often read the great CCBC discussions after the list has finished discussing a particular book or topic and is on to something else.

Sue Sherif School Library/Youth Services Coordinator Alaska State Library 344 West Third Avenue Suite 125 Anchorage, AK 99501
  907-269-6569 Fax: 907-269-6580 800-776-6566 (Toll-free in Alaska)
  sue.sherif at alaska.gov
 


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Today's Topics:

   1. A word of caution on CCBC-Net's August discussion
      (Kathleen T. Horning)
   2. Announcement: CCF online writing contest--"Summer plans were
      going..." (Olgy Gary)
   3. Re: Election novel reading list (alanabuck at aol.com)
   4. Charlotte Zolotow quote (Ernie Cox)
   5. Harry Potter 7 comment (WAY Vicki Kouchnerkavich)
   6. Re: Harry Potter 7 comment (amyg at nyc.rr.com)
   7. Harry Potter 7 (Angela J. Reynolds)
   8. Harry Potter 7 (Bloom, Sam)


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Message: 1 Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 12:18:30 -0500 From: "Kathleen T. Horning" <horning at education.wisc.edu> Subject: [CCBC-Net] A word of caution on CCBC-Net's August discussion To: "ccbc-net, Subscribers of" <ccbc-net at lists.education.wisc.edu> Message-ID: <46B211E6.6090700 at education.wisc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

As you know, during the month of August we will be discussing "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows," as well as the series as a whole. We know people are eager to discuss the book, and thought that two weeks would be a reasonable amount of time for people to read the book.

If you have not yet read the book, we can't guarantee that you won't learn something you didn't want to know. There are bound to be many spoilers in any kind of in-depth discussion. If you don't want to know any plot details before you read the book, please take responsibility for yourself and avoid reading the messages. You can do this by deleting them without reading them, of course, or you can temporarily unsubscribe or disable your account for the month of August here: http://ccbc.education.wisc.edu/mailman/listinfo/ccbc-net You can always

catch up on the discussion later on in the archives.

If you're not sure how to unsubscribe or disable your account, please feel free to write to me for help.

For those of you who do want to participate in the discussion, please hold off for another day or two to let those who don't want any spoilers

to leave the building.

Thanks!

KT

Kathleen T. Horning Director Cooperative Children's Book Center 4290 Helen C. White Hall 600 N. Park St Madison, WI 53706

Phone: 608-263-3721 FAX: 608-262-4933

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Message: 2 Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 11:32:59 -0600 From: "Olgy Gary" <omgary at childrencomefirst.com> Subject: [CCBC-Net] Announcement: CCF online writing contest--"Summer
        plans were going..." To: <ccbc-net at ccbc.education.wisc.edu> Message-ID: <00c201c7d52b$2df4dac0$6601a8c0 at Olgy> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Summer plans are the theme of our current online writing contest and, as always, you can spin it any way you want. Could they lead to a horror story? A funny one? A sad or happy story? It's up to you where that first line takes you! If you're game, then it's time for you all to turn in your online writing contest entries!

The contest is open to kids of all ages, from elementary school students to senior citizens. You may browse through and read past entries dealing with July 4th, nutrition, spiders and more at this URL. http://www.childrencomefirst.com/onlinecontestentries.shtml

So...how about submitting a 200 word story? And even getting your students to do so as well? http://www.childrencomefirst.com/onlinewriter.shtml

As always, here are the rules:
--Your story has to start with the first line given. For the current contest that line is, "Summer plans were going..."
--That has to be its "first line."
--It needs to be under 200 words in length.

Pretty simple, huh? Write it up and submit it using the form on this page, http://www.childrencomefirst.com/onlinewriter.shtml

Fill in all the fields, especially your byline where you need to put a link to your website and/or blog if you have one...or address to your business, etc., whatever you want folks to know about you goes there. Then click the
"SUBMIT" button and you're done!

Olgy
------------------------------------------- Olgy Gary, Gen'l Manager
"children come first...because they're our greatest treasure!" http://www.childrencomefirst.com http://www.olgygary.blogspot.com http://tinyurl.com/yk9tvq - Free CCF bulletin



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Message: 3 Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 13:47:35 -0400 From: alanabuck at aol.com Subject: Re: [CCBC-Net] Election novel reading list To: Sugoodman at aol.com, schliesman at education.wisc.edu,
        ccbc-net at lists.ad.education.wisc.edu Message-ID: <8C9A34458557A6E-EC8-E12 at webmail-dd05.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"


Dear Susan,

Thanks for the list.? Our library did an Election Day bibliography a while back.? It contains picture books and novels as well as some non-fiction and websites.? I thought you might like a copy.

Barbara Buckley

Oceanside Library (New York)


-----Original Message----- From: Sugoodman at aol.com To: schliesman at education.wisc.edu; ccbc-net at lists.ad.education.wisc.edu Sent: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 12:19 pm Subject: [CCBC-Net] Election novel reading list




Oops--sorry to send this twice but I thought it might be more useful to eople if I remembered to put in an appropriate subject header.


i Everyone,

 few weeks ago, I wrote asking for suggestions of novels for 4-6th graders hat had something to do with elections or past presidents or presidential olitics because I was adding fiction to the reading list at the back of my pcoming nonfiction book, See How They Run. I just want to say thank you to all ho esponded. I was bowled over by how many people took the time to think about y question and send their ideas. One person asked for the resulting list. here I picked among these books for the ones that best fit my needs, here are ll the ones suggested.

gain thanks so much--Susan Goodman


homas Jefferson: Letters from a Philadelphia Bookworm (part of the Dear Mr. resident series) by Jennifer Armstrong (There are other books in the series s well) ope was Here by Joan Bauer elly Curtis? Diary by Miriam Anne Bourne he President?s Daughter by Kimberly Brubaker Bradley incoln?s Legacy by Stacia Deutsch and Rhody Cohon he Kid who Ran for President by Dan Gutman om for Mayor by Nancy Edwards atch a Tiger by the Toe by Ellen Levine host Girl: A Blue Ridge Mountain Story by Delia Ray n Unlikely Friendship: A Novel of Mary Todd Lincoln and Elizabeth Keckley by nn Rinaldi ashington City is Burning by Harriette Gillem Robinet irst Boy by Gary Schmidt hoebe and the Spy by Judith Berry Griffin ax for President by Jarrett J. Krosoczka. arvin Redpost : Class President by Louis Sachar inah for President by Claudia Mills he President's Daughter by Ellen Emerson White utty for President by Dean Hughes he Liberation of Gabriel King by K.L. Going iding Freedom by Pam Munoz Ryan uck for President by Doreen Cronin hite House Ghosthunters series. The book titles were Money Madness, Nest gg Nightmare and Dolley's Detectives by Gibbs Davis
 Letter to Mrs. Roosevelt by C. Coco De Young Washington City is Burning by Harriette Gillem Robinet Love from your friend, Hannah by Mindy Warshaw Skolsky ote for Larry by Janet Tashjian ons of Liberty by Adele Griffin lizabeth Leads the Way by Tanya Stone
  usan Goodman
 Oakview Ter. amaica Plain MA 02130 17-522-0158 ww.susangoodmanbooks.com

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Message: 4 Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 20:39:16 -0400 From: "Ernie Cox" <ernest.cox at gmail.com> Subject: [CCBC-Net] Charlotte Zolotow quote To: ccbc-net at ccbc.education.wisc.edu Message-ID:
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I thought many of you on this list would appreciate an excerpt from an interview Charlotte Zolotow gave to Justin Wintle. The full interview appeared in the book The Pied Pipers: Interviews with the influential creators of children's literature, Raddington Press Ltd. 1974 (LC 74-15918). While this interview occurred over 30 years ago it still seems right on...

JW - One book of yours, A Father Like That, which shows a little boy reflecting on what his father might be like if he had one, seemed to me a risky book to do for the very young.

CZ - That came out of a deep feeling that kids so often have no parent or an imperfect parent. All through that book I was working toward the ending, the feeling that if you can't create your parents you're at the mercy of them whether they're there or not there. The only way out of that is to grow up and become the parent you would like to have had. It isn't just parents
- it's a thousand other things you wish other people would do or be, and which they're not going to do or be. But if you can make yourself do or be that, then at least there's one person who's fulfilling this goodness. Why did you think it was risky? Because it might upset them?

JW Because it gets close to a very real, very pathetic situation; because of the realism of the emotion described.

CZ It's a genuine thing that kids experience, because of the war and because of so many divorces. We get a lot of books that try to explain divorce to children in a very flat-footed way. They're not really books, they're not really stories; they're a sort of preaching. A reconstruction of an emotional need I think can reach a child much better. There is no answer if there is no father, except the hope that you can get to be a father yourself. It's not a lesson, but it's a though I would like to carry further, because I think so much of the misery in the world is caused by wanting to make other people over into the way we think they should be. If we could just settle for being that way ourselves we'd be ahead.

--
Ernie J. Cox
Media Specialist
St. Timothy's School
4523 Six Forks Road
Raleigh, N.C. 27609
919.787.3011 ext.1708
sttimothys.org
http://erniec.edublogs.org/ (mediacentered blog)
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 10:35:27 -0400
From: "WAY Vicki Kouchnerkavich" <wayvk at henikalibrary.org>
Subject: [CCBC-Net] Harry Potter 7 comment
To: ccbc-net at lists.ad.education.wisc.edu
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I would like to comment on HP7 and Harry's relationship with Snape and
how JK Rowling chose to tie 
this up. 
I was actually discussing this with another library staff member and she
pointed out when Snape was 
dying and said to Harry "Potter look at me" or something to that effect
(I don't have the book in 
front me) that Snape wanted the last thing he saw in this life was
Lilly's eye (via Harry).  I 
certainly did not pick up on that thought and if that is what the author
intended, it was a 
significant line in the story. 
My 28 year son also picked up on several lines in this book, that he
recalled hearing 
similar "lines" before.  And I don't mean to discredit Rowling, these
are just comments.  There is 
a line by Albus Dumbledore with Harry about those not seeking power,
having it thrust upon them.  
My son heard a line in the TV series Deep Space 9 and in a Shakespeare
play using the power and 
thrust terms.  Then the wonderfully surprising line by Mrs. Weasley to
Beallatrix about "Not my 
daughter BIT....", was very close to a line from one of the Alien movies
by Sigourney Weaver with 
her character Ripley stating to the queen alien, "Stay away from her
(Newt) BIT....
I am not sure if I saw it here, but if so I apologize, check out on
YouTube, the Harry Potter 
Puppets, very cute.
Vicki Kouchnerkavich
Henika District Library (AW)
Youth Services Supervisor
149 S. Main St.
Wayland, MI  49348
269-792-2891
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2007 10:56:21 -0400
From: amyg at nyc.rr.com
Subject: Re: [CCBC-Net] Harry Potter 7 comment
To: ccbc-net at lists.ad.education.wisc.edu
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Oh, I definitely think that Snape wanted the last thing he saw to be
Lily's eyes--I picked up on that, too. I also think by saying "look at
me," he also wanted Harry to finally _see_ him, to understand him. Snape
saved Harry's life over and over, and Harry continually brushed this
aside. Snape was running incredible risks for Lily's son's sake, and all
it ever got him was Harry and the Professors at Hogwarts calling him
"coward" and "murderer." The only person who knew what Snape was really
up to was dead, and Snape desperately needed both to communicate
Dumbledore's message and to finally set the record straight.
As far as other lines in the book being similar to other bits of pop
culture, I think that's just because the situations are similar. I don't
think one really goes to Rowling for great prose style; I think one goes
to Rowling for a compelling story and her amazing ability to deliver
emotional sucker punches.
--Amy Goldschlager
Freelance writer/editor
NYC
----- Original Message -----
From: WAY Vicki Kouchnerkavich <wayvk at henikalibrary.org>
Date: Friday, August 3, 2007 10:38 am
Subject: [CCBC-Net] Harry Potter 7 comment
To: ccbc-net at lists.ad.education.wisc.edu
> I would like to comment on HP7 and Harry's relationship with Snape 
> and how JK Rowling chose to tie 
> this up. 
> 
> I was actually discussing this with another library staff member 
> and she pointed out when Snape was 
> dying and said to Harry "Potter look at me" or something to that 
> effect (I don't have the book in 
> front me) that Snape wanted the last thing he saw in this life was 
> Lilly's eye (via Harry).  I 
> certainly did not pick up on that thought and if that is what the 
> author intended, it was a 
> significant line in the story. 
> 
> My 28 year son also picked up on several lines in this book, that 
> he recalled hearing 
> similar "lines" before.  And I don't mean to discredit Rowling, 
> these are just comments.  There is 
> a line by Albus Dumbledore with Harry about those not seeking 
> power, having it thrust upon them.  
> My son heard a line in the TV series Deep Space 9 and in a 
> Shakespeare play using the power and 
> thrust terms.  Then the wonderfully surprising line by Mrs. Weasley 
> to Beallatrix about "Not my 
> daughter BIT....", was very close to a line from one of the Alien 
> movies by Sigourney Weaver with 
> her character Ripley stating to the queen alien, "Stay away from 
> her (Newt) BIT....
> 
> I am not sure if I saw it here, but if so I apologize, check out on 
> YouTube, the Harry Potter 
> Puppets, very cute.
> 
> Vicki Kouchnerkavich
> Henika District Library (AW)
> Youth Services Supervisor
> 149 S. Main St.
> Wayland, MI  49348
> 269-792-2891
> 
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2007 12:16:39 -0300
From: "Angela J. Reynolds" <areynold at nsar.library.ns.ca>
Subject: [CCBC-Net] Harry Potter 7
To: ccbc-net <ccbc-net at ccbc.education.wisc.edu>
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While we are on Snape... if Harry hadn't seen Snape's thoughts, with 
that intense connection to his Mother, he would never have believed 
anything Snape said, and would not have been able to defeat Lord V as he
did. Rowling knew what she was doing, forcing Harry to look through 
Snape's eyes at his own history-- and I loved how that came right at a 
time when you were just itching to find out what happens next-- 
suddenly, you have to go back in time, forcing you to wait and find out.
on another note....I listened to this on audio, and one thing that I 
absolutely loved about the audio was how it forced me to listen at a 
slower pace than I would read. If I had had the book in hand, I would 
have devoured it and missed much (as has happened with other books, I 
just slurp them down like a good milkshake and then it is over and you 
want more).  Jim Dale's narration kept me on the edge of my earphones, 
but I was forced to listen only as fast as HE read-- which was a real 
pleasure, indeed.
-- 
Angela J. Reynolds, Head of Youth Services
Annapolis Valley Regional Library
P.O. Box 640, 26 Bay Road
Bridgetown, NS  CANADA B0S 1C0
902-665-2995
Fax: 902-665-4899
areynold at nsar.library.ns.ca
http://www.valleylibrary.ca
2007-08 ALSC Notable Children's Recordings Committee
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 11:21:21 -0400
From: "Bloom, Sam" <Sam.Bloom at cincinnatilibrary.org>
Subject: [CCBC-Net] Harry Potter 7
To: <ccbc-net at ccbc.education.wisc.edu>
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I personally think that the chapter with Snape's memories was one of the
most satisfying and well-done bits of text that Rowling has done. Did
you notice that this was the chapter that answered almost all of our
questions? (Especially if, like me, you read the book that Mugglenet put
out and the collection of blog posts.) I've actually reread that chapter
a few times just to get all the details... but I didn't realize the
significance of Snape asking Harry to look into his eyes until you all
pointed it out (and that was something that I remember Rowling saying...
that Harry having Lily's eyes would be *very* significant).
Sam Bloom
Reference Librarian - Children's Services, Groesbeck Branch Library
Public Library of Cincinnati and Hamilton County
(513) 369-4454 / (513) 369-7800 (voicemail)
Sam.Bloom at cincinnatilibrary.org
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