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From: Joan Atkinson <jatkinso>
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 18:43:10 -0500
Two years ago I worked with a ninth grade history teacher on a unit on Africa. We used several picture books that worked well. Ted and Betsy Lewin's Gorilla Walk and Elephant Quest capture the landscapes and survival story of these remarkable animals. We used several photographically illustrated picture books by Ifeoma Onyefulu that are stunning. Most popular was Ogbo, which describes and pictures age cohorts (born within 5 years of each other) in a Nigerian village, who are responsible for each other for the rest of their lives.
Joan Atkinson
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Today's Topics:
1. reading to escape or cope (Killeen, Erlene)
2. Re: reading to escape or cope (Bren MacDibble)
3. children's cd's (Margie Wirth)
4. Re: children's cd's (James Elliott)
5. Re: children's cd's (BRENDAN PATRICK MCCARTY)
6. Off Topic Messages (Megan Schliesman)
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Message: 1 Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 17:34:55 -0400 From: "Killeen, Erlene" <Erlene.Killeen at hq.dodea.edu> Subject: [CCBC-Net] reading to escape or cope To: <ccbc-net at ccbc.education.wisc.edu> Message-ID:
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In reply to the current discussion and particularly Monica's point about Harry Potter -- Isn't that what fairy tales and folklore do for children
(and all of us) as well? Who isn't thrilled when Hansel & Gretel outwit the witch or when Cinderella's goodness is rewarded?
Good stories give us a world that we can live in for the moments and compare, contrast to our own lives. They help us cope with whatever! Being a reader in a small Midwestern town as a child saved me from isolation, boredom, and loneliness. I could travel the world, have a variety of friends, and experience life beyond my community. I was able to think "great ideas" and get to know famous people. Those stories helped me cope with times of despair, awkwardness, and melancholy. They kept me dreaming and hoping for a better world. All children need that!
The escapist literature from my youth still draws young readers -- Pippi Longstocking, the Little House series, The Secret Garden, The Box Car Children, Alice in Wonderland, National Velvet, and many others! Read on! Erlene
"I've always credited the current popularity of fantasy to Harry Potter, but am now wondering if 9/11 isn't a factor too. The best fantasy novels deal with the most significant issues of life --- what is good, what is evil, and what to do about it. I've always felt that one reason the genre is appealing to young readers is that far from being escapist, its authors create compelling environments in which the same huge issues that we are dealing with daily in real life are being considered, grappled with, and won over. In these works, it is pluck, intelligence, verve, self-sacrifice, and other realistic human behaviors not magic that really matter." Monica
Erlene Bishop Killeen Instructional Systems Specialist Library and Media Dept. of Defense Education Agency 4040 Fairfax Drive Arlington, VA 22203 703-588-3132
"Nothing is ever achieved without enthusiasm." Ralph Waldo Emerson
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Message: 2 Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 11:29:54 +1000 From: "Bren MacDibble" <brenmacd at optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: [CCBC-Net] reading to escape or cope To: <ccbc-net at ccbc.ad.education.wisc.edu> Message-ID: <006901c6d6d4$1e89b570$3b02a8c0 at Brenlaptop> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
A lot of the stories Erlene has mentioned are fantasies where children are empowered as well as being perfect versions of worlds with clear good and evil and, if we're writing for children we have to be aware of what the child wants. I'm sure 9/11 left them feeling disempowered and unsure of who the bad guy is which is why these fantasy stories also appeal to children.
I think science fiction would appeal more to children who are more aware of current affairs than fantasy. They become children seeking answers, seeking a way into a better future, or looking for parrallels that are more realistic than fantasy can offer.
I like James Elliot's mention of the real heroes and think it's great to
show ordinary people being heroic but like Hollis I worry about the effects of showing the world's atrocities too graphically to children too young. I know with my own children who are citizens of a country that has never committed an atrocity that learning such things makes them a little dark
around the edges. Sadly, they tend to remove themselves and lay blame on the thinking of whatever nationality committed the act... and it's hard to counter "all- .... -are-idiots" type thinking. Usually there's too much
reinforcing influences from the media... and we all know kids would rather listen to the tv than their parents or teachers.
I'm sorry, not many 9/11 books have filtered down to the southern hemisphere so I can't comment on what IS out there.
Bren
www.macdibble.com
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Message: 3 Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 18:36:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Margie Wirth <mugswirth at yahoo.com> Subject: [CCBC-Net] children's cd's To: CCBC-Net at ccbc.education.wisc.edu Message-ID: <20060913013613.480.qmail at web30715.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Hi Everyone I have four year olds who come into the library for story hour. I am looking for really good CD's for sing-a-longs and stories on CD that keep this generation interested. All of the records I have in the library are titles I would have listened to in the seventies.
Margie Wirth DCPS
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Message: 4 Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 09:17:09 -0400 From: "James Elliott" <j_c_elliott at msn.com> Subject: Re: [CCBC-Net] children's cd's To: mugswirth at yahoo.com, CCBC-Net at ccbc.education.wisc.edu Message-ID: <BAY101-F22596E6EED5CD548AE42D3AF280 at phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
Oh, gee! The list of titles are endless! You might want to try just browsing through Borders Children music section. They're a bit higher priced, but
will give you an idea of what is out there.
Personally, I'd recommend the Wee Sing selection. They usually feature sing-a-longs with rhymes and finger plays, they come with a song book
(you could make them into a 'kit' in a bag) that are easy to read, and you can buy separate coloring books for copying coloring sheet hand outs.
Raffi is still popular, as is Fred Penner ("The cat came back").
Hope this helps.
Jim
>From: Margie Wirth <mugswirth at yahoo.com>
>To: CCBC-Net at ccbc.education.wisc.edu
>Subject: [CCBC-Net] children's cd's
>Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 18:36:13 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Hi Everyone
>I have four year olds who come into the library for story hour. I am
>looking for really good CD's for sing-a-longs and stories on CD that
keep
>this generation interested. All of the records I have in the library
are
>titles I would have listened to in the seventies.
>
>Margie Wirth
>DCPS
>
>
>---------------------------------
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> Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail.
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Message: 5 Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 11:02:33 -0500 From: BRENDAN PATRICK MCCARTY <bmccarty at wisc.edu> Subject: Re: [CCBC-Net] children's cd's To: James Elliott <j_c_elliott at msn.com> Cc: CCBC-Net at ccbc.education.wisc.edu Message-ID: <ec66f0e02296.2296ec66f0e0 at wiscmail.wisc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Hi All!
Here are a few more suggestions. While these don't fall under the "traditional children's music" category, here are some great kids' albums from traditionally "grown-up" artists. The great thing about these albums (I think) is they can be equally enjoyed by kids and parents alike.
Ralph's World- kids music from a Chicago-based former indie rocker; great production values, catchy, warm-hearted songs. Albums include: "Peggie's Pie Parlor", "The Amazing Adventures of Kid Astro" and last year's awesome release "Green Gorilla, Monster & Me"
(recorded right here in Madison, WI)
They Might Be Giants- Everybody's favorite nerd rock band from the 90s has put out some great, innovative kids music. "No!" is an enhanced CD that plays animated movies when played on a computer and "Bed, Bed, Bed" is an EP that comes coupled with a picture book. "Here Come the A- B-C's" is available separately as a DVD and a CD, and "Here Come the 1- 2-3's" is expected to follow shortly.
Manu Chao- the reggae/ worldbeat/ dance artist put out a children's book and companion CD (in French) titled "Sib?rie m'?tait cont?ee". A little bit off the beaten track and might be hard to come by, but definitely worth the search, especially if you're looking to integrate a second language.
Happy Listening!
-Brendan
----- Original Message ----- From: James Elliott <j_c_elliott at msn.com> Date: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 8:17 am Subject: Re: [CCBC-Net] children's cd's To: mugswirth at yahoo.com, CCBC-Net at ccbc.education.wisc.edu
> Oh, gee! The list of titles are endless! You might want to try
> just browsing
> through Borders Children music section. They're a bit higher
> priced, but
> will give you an idea of what is out there.
>
> Personally, I'd recommend the Wee Sing selection. They usually
> feature
> sing-a-longs with rhymes and finger plays, they come with a song
> book (you
> could make them into a 'kit' in a bag) that are easy to read, and
> you can
> buy separate coloring books for copying coloring sheet hand outs.
>
> Raffi is still popular, as is Fred Penner ("The cat came back").
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Jim
>
>
> >From: Margie Wirth <mugswirth at yahoo.com>
> >To: CCBC-Net at ccbc.education.wisc.edu
> >Subject: [CCBC-Net] children's cd's
> >Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 18:36:13 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >Hi Everyone
> >I have four year olds who come into the library for story hour. I
> am
> >looking for really good CD's for sing-a-longs and stories on CD
> that keep
> >this generation interested. All of the records I have in the
> library are
> >titles I would have listened to in the seventies.
> >
> >Margie Wirth
> >DCPS
> >
> >
> >---------------------------------
> >Do you Yahoo!?
> > Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail.
> >_______________________________________________
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> >http://ccbc.education.wisc.edu/mailman/listinfo/ccbc-net
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>
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Message: 6 Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 11:41:15 -0500 From: Megan Schliesman <schliesman at education.wisc.edu> Subject: [CCBC-Net] Off Topic Messages To: "ccbc-net, Subscribers of" <ccbc-net at lists.education.wisc.edu> Message-ID: <450834AB.3060106 at education.wisc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Just a reminder--if someone posts an off-topic question to CCBC-Net, please respond to that person individuall and not the list as a whole.
Thanks!
Megan
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 18:43:10 -0500
Two years ago I worked with a ninth grade history teacher on a unit on Africa. We used several picture books that worked well. Ted and Betsy Lewin's Gorilla Walk and Elephant Quest capture the landscapes and survival story of these remarkable animals. We used several photographically illustrated picture books by Ifeoma Onyefulu that are stunning. Most popular was Ogbo, which describes and pictures age cohorts (born within 5 years of each other) in a Nigerian village, who are responsible for each other for the rest of their lives.
Joan Atkinson
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Today's Topics:
1. reading to escape or cope (Killeen, Erlene)
2. Re: reading to escape or cope (Bren MacDibble)
3. children's cd's (Margie Wirth)
4. Re: children's cd's (James Elliott)
5. Re: children's cd's (BRENDAN PATRICK MCCARTY)
6. Off Topic Messages (Megan Schliesman)
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Message: 1 Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 17:34:55 -0400 From: "Killeen, Erlene" <Erlene.Killeen at hq.dodea.edu> Subject: [CCBC-Net] reading to escape or cope To: <ccbc-net at ccbc.education.wisc.edu> Message-ID:
<663DF1FAD6BF2945B71B1FFD06A0EA1E01EDFEB0 at HQ-EX2.hq.ds.dodea.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
In reply to the current discussion and particularly Monica's point about Harry Potter -- Isn't that what fairy tales and folklore do for children
(and all of us) as well? Who isn't thrilled when Hansel & Gretel outwit the witch or when Cinderella's goodness is rewarded?
Good stories give us a world that we can live in for the moments and compare, contrast to our own lives. They help us cope with whatever! Being a reader in a small Midwestern town as a child saved me from isolation, boredom, and loneliness. I could travel the world, have a variety of friends, and experience life beyond my community. I was able to think "great ideas" and get to know famous people. Those stories helped me cope with times of despair, awkwardness, and melancholy. They kept me dreaming and hoping for a better world. All children need that!
The escapist literature from my youth still draws young readers -- Pippi Longstocking, the Little House series, The Secret Garden, The Box Car Children, Alice in Wonderland, National Velvet, and many others! Read on! Erlene
"I've always credited the current popularity of fantasy to Harry Potter, but am now wondering if 9/11 isn't a factor too. The best fantasy novels deal with the most significant issues of life --- what is good, what is evil, and what to do about it. I've always felt that one reason the genre is appealing to young readers is that far from being escapist, its authors create compelling environments in which the same huge issues that we are dealing with daily in real life are being considered, grappled with, and won over. In these works, it is pluck, intelligence, verve, self-sacrifice, and other realistic human behaviors not magic that really matter." Monica
Erlene Bishop Killeen Instructional Systems Specialist Library and Media Dept. of Defense Education Agency 4040 Fairfax Drive Arlington, VA 22203 703-588-3132
"Nothing is ever achieved without enthusiasm." Ralph Waldo Emerson
------------------------------
Message: 2 Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 11:29:54 +1000 From: "Bren MacDibble" <brenmacd at optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: [CCBC-Net] reading to escape or cope To: <ccbc-net at ccbc.ad.education.wisc.edu> Message-ID: <006901c6d6d4$1e89b570$3b02a8c0 at Brenlaptop> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
A lot of the stories Erlene has mentioned are fantasies where children are empowered as well as being perfect versions of worlds with clear good and evil and, if we're writing for children we have to be aware of what the child wants. I'm sure 9/11 left them feeling disempowered and unsure of who the bad guy is which is why these fantasy stories also appeal to children.
I think science fiction would appeal more to children who are more aware of current affairs than fantasy. They become children seeking answers, seeking a way into a better future, or looking for parrallels that are more realistic than fantasy can offer.
I like James Elliot's mention of the real heroes and think it's great to
show ordinary people being heroic but like Hollis I worry about the effects of showing the world's atrocities too graphically to children too young. I know with my own children who are citizens of a country that has never committed an atrocity that learning such things makes them a little dark
around the edges. Sadly, they tend to remove themselves and lay blame on the thinking of whatever nationality committed the act... and it's hard to counter "all- .... -are-idiots" type thinking. Usually there's too much
reinforcing influences from the media... and we all know kids would rather listen to the tv than their parents or teachers.
I'm sorry, not many 9/11 books have filtered down to the southern hemisphere so I can't comment on what IS out there.
Bren
www.macdibble.com
------------------------------
Message: 3 Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 18:36:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Margie Wirth <mugswirth at yahoo.com> Subject: [CCBC-Net] children's cd's To: CCBC-Net at ccbc.education.wisc.edu Message-ID: <20060913013613.480.qmail at web30715.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Hi Everyone I have four year olds who come into the library for story hour. I am looking for really good CD's for sing-a-longs and stories on CD that keep this generation interested. All of the records I have in the library are titles I would have listened to in the seventies.
Margie Wirth DCPS
--------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!?
Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail.
------------------------------
Message: 4 Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 09:17:09 -0400 From: "James Elliott" <j_c_elliott at msn.com> Subject: Re: [CCBC-Net] children's cd's To: mugswirth at yahoo.com, CCBC-Net at ccbc.education.wisc.edu Message-ID: <BAY101-F22596E6EED5CD548AE42D3AF280 at phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
Oh, gee! The list of titles are endless! You might want to try just browsing through Borders Children music section. They're a bit higher priced, but
will give you an idea of what is out there.
Personally, I'd recommend the Wee Sing selection. They usually feature sing-a-longs with rhymes and finger plays, they come with a song book
(you could make them into a 'kit' in a bag) that are easy to read, and you can buy separate coloring books for copying coloring sheet hand outs.
Raffi is still popular, as is Fred Penner ("The cat came back").
Hope this helps.
Jim
>From: Margie Wirth <mugswirth at yahoo.com>
>To: CCBC-Net at ccbc.education.wisc.edu
>Subject: [CCBC-Net] children's cd's
>Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 18:36:13 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Hi Everyone
>I have four year olds who come into the library for story hour. I am
>looking for really good CD's for sing-a-longs and stories on CD that
keep
>this generation interested. All of the records I have in the library
are
>titles I would have listened to in the seventies.
>
>Margie Wirth
>DCPS
>
>
>---------------------------------
>Do you Yahoo!?
> Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail.
>_______________________________________________
>CCBC-Net mailing list
>CCBC-Net at ccbc.education.wisc.edu
>Visit this link to read archives or to unsubscribe...
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Message: 5 Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 11:02:33 -0500 From: BRENDAN PATRICK MCCARTY <bmccarty at wisc.edu> Subject: Re: [CCBC-Net] children's cd's To: James Elliott <j_c_elliott at msn.com> Cc: CCBC-Net at ccbc.education.wisc.edu Message-ID: <ec66f0e02296.2296ec66f0e0 at wiscmail.wisc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Hi All!
Here are a few more suggestions. While these don't fall under the "traditional children's music" category, here are some great kids' albums from traditionally "grown-up" artists. The great thing about these albums (I think) is they can be equally enjoyed by kids and parents alike.
Ralph's World- kids music from a Chicago-based former indie rocker; great production values, catchy, warm-hearted songs. Albums include: "Peggie's Pie Parlor", "The Amazing Adventures of Kid Astro" and last year's awesome release "Green Gorilla, Monster & Me"
(recorded right here in Madison, WI)
They Might Be Giants- Everybody's favorite nerd rock band from the 90s has put out some great, innovative kids music. "No!" is an enhanced CD that plays animated movies when played on a computer and "Bed, Bed, Bed" is an EP that comes coupled with a picture book. "Here Come the A- B-C's" is available separately as a DVD and a CD, and "Here Come the 1- 2-3's" is expected to follow shortly.
Manu Chao- the reggae/ worldbeat/ dance artist put out a children's book and companion CD (in French) titled "Sib?rie m'?tait cont?ee". A little bit off the beaten track and might be hard to come by, but definitely worth the search, especially if you're looking to integrate a second language.
Happy Listening!
-Brendan
----- Original Message ----- From: James Elliott <j_c_elliott at msn.com> Date: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 8:17 am Subject: Re: [CCBC-Net] children's cd's To: mugswirth at yahoo.com, CCBC-Net at ccbc.education.wisc.edu
> Oh, gee! The list of titles are endless! You might want to try
> just browsing
> through Borders Children music section. They're a bit higher
> priced, but
> will give you an idea of what is out there.
>
> Personally, I'd recommend the Wee Sing selection. They usually
> feature
> sing-a-longs with rhymes and finger plays, they come with a song
> book (you
> could make them into a 'kit' in a bag) that are easy to read, and
> you can
> buy separate coloring books for copying coloring sheet hand outs.
>
> Raffi is still popular, as is Fred Penner ("The cat came back").
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Jim
>
>
> >From: Margie Wirth <mugswirth at yahoo.com>
> >To: CCBC-Net at ccbc.education.wisc.edu
> >Subject: [CCBC-Net] children's cd's
> >Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 18:36:13 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >Hi Everyone
> >I have four year olds who come into the library for story hour. I
> am
> >looking for really good CD's for sing-a-longs and stories on CD
> that keep
> >this generation interested. All of the records I have in the
> library are
> >titles I would have listened to in the seventies.
> >
> >Margie Wirth
> >DCPS
> >
> >
> >---------------------------------
> >Do you Yahoo!?
> > Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail.
> >_______________________________________________
> >CCBC-Net mailing list
> >CCBC-Net at ccbc.education.wisc.edu
> >Visit this link to read archives or to unsubscribe...
> >http://ccbc.education.wisc.edu/mailman/listinfo/ccbc-net
>
>
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Message: 6 Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 11:41:15 -0500 From: Megan Schliesman <schliesman at education.wisc.edu> Subject: [CCBC-Net] Off Topic Messages To: "ccbc-net, Subscribers of" <ccbc-net at lists.education.wisc.edu> Message-ID: <450834AB.3060106 at education.wisc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Just a reminder--if someone posts an off-topic question to CCBC-Net, please respond to that person individuall and not the list as a whole.
Thanks!
Megan
-- Megan Schliesman, Librarian Cooperative Children's Book Center School of Education, UW-Madison 600 N. Park St., Room 4290 Madison, WI 53706 ph: 608-262-9503 fax: 608-262-4933 schliesman at education.wisc.edu ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ CCBC-Net mailing list CCBC-Net at ccbc.education.wisc.edu Visit this link to read archives or to unsubscribe... http://ccbc.education.wisc.edu/mailman/listinfo/ccbc-net End of CCBC-Net Digest, Vol 14, Issue 12 ****************************************Received on Tue 19 Sep 2006 06:43:10 PM CDT
