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From: Sue McGown <smcgown>
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 12:39:46 -0600
Well-said, Carole, as always you have articulated clearly the experience of many of us. Sue McGown St. John's School Houston, TX
Carole Fiore wrote:
>As someone who has had the opportunity during my long career to serve on the
>Newbery, Caldecott, and, most recently, on the first Geisel Award Committee,
>I must say that many of the individuals who serve on award committees
>purposely DO NOT look at advertising and try to avoid reading reviews of
>books that are under consideration while they are serving on the committee.
>These individuals are selected to serve on these committees because of their
>abilities to look at books critically and apply specific criteria for each
>award to the books of that one year. Many of those who serve on book award
>committees share the books under consideration with peers, parents, and
>children to help clarify their thoughts and opinions.
>
> Carole D. Fiore
>
>************************************************************************
>Carole D. Fiore
>Training and Library Consulting
>Author, Fiore's Summer Library Reading Program Handbook -- NOW AVAILABLE
>from Neal-Schuman
>cfiore at earthlink.net
>Phone and Fax: 850-656-8474
>************************************************************************
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: ccbc-net-bounces at ccbc.education.wisc.edu
>[mailto:ccbc-net-bounces at ccbc.education.wisc.edu] On Behalf Of Steward,
>Celeste
>Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 11:52 AM
>To: Meghan McCarthy; ccbc-net at ccbc.education.wisc.edu
>Subject: Re: [CCBC-Net] Criss Cross
>
>
>Well...I haven't thought as deeply on this issue as some folks here...but my
>inner 10-year old can't believe that D. Wiles' Each Little Bird That Sings
>didn't win an award...I adored that book...
>
>P.S. I do think marketing has a role in the award process, after all, few of
>us are immune to the power of advertising.
>
>Celeste Steward
>Collection Development Librarian, Children Services
>Alameda County Library
>2400 Stevenson Blvd.
>Fremont, CA 94538
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: ccbc-net-bounces at ccbc.education.wisc.edu
>[mailto:ccbc-net-bounces at ccbc.education.wisc.edu]On Behalf Of Meghan
>McCarthy
>Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 8:30 AM
>To: ccbc-net at ccbc.education.wisc.edu
>Subject: Re: [CCBC-Net] Criss Cross
>
>
>I did in fact notice that Criss Cross got starred
>reviews, etc. What I was trying to say is that the
>Caldecott winners are more obvious to the average
>public... more widely recognized.
>The author and illustrator of the The Hello, Goodbye
>Window have been in the mainstream media plenty. The
>buying public doesn't read the School Library Journal
>and has probably never heard of it. Ask any shopper if
>they've heard of Chris Raschka or at least recognizes
>his work and they'll say "yes." Ask them if they've
>heard of Lynne Rae Perkins and they'll say "no." I'm
>pretty in tune with the average public since I've
>worked at a bookstore for about 5 years.
>
>Every year since I've started working at B&N the same
>thing happens. We always have the Caldecott pick in
>stock or at least DID carry it at some point but never
>the Newbery. When I tell my coworkers the winners, who
>don't pay any attention to the industry like I do,
>they say "Oh, that one," to the Caldecott and they say
>"What book?" to the Newbery. IF the Newbery pick got
>written up in major newspapers or magazines, rest
>assured B&N would carry the book. IF the Newbery book
>got pushed by its publisher and got a large marketing
>campaign it would be carried at B&N. After all, the
>chain's bottom line is making money.
>
>What I am not saying is that the Caldecott picks are
>the most popular books out there. I sincerely doubt
>that a book like WALTER THE FARTING DOG will ever end
>up on the honor list. I also wasn't saying that this
>is a cold hard fact and that this happens EVERY SINGLE
>TIME. But I was saying that more often than not, the
>Caldecott winner is more known to the average person
>ahead of time than the Newbery... at least in recent
>years.
>
>I was just making an observation! That's all! I'm
>going back to lurkdome now....
>
>meghan
>author/illustrator/bookseller/who is trying not to be
>a trouble maker but likes to start conversation
>
>
>
>--- Kathleen Horning <horning at education.wisc.edu>
>wrote:
>
>
>
>>I think your observation perhaps says more about
>>Barnes & Noble and the
>>other large chain book stores than it does about the
>>award books.
>>
>>
>
>
>
>>"Criss Cross" got starred reviews in just about
>>every professional
>>journal, and was on several of the annual best books
>>lists, including
>>SLJ, Kirkus, Horn Book Fanfare, and the Book Sense
>>Picks from the
>>Independent Booksellers Association. Anyone who was surprised that it
>>won the Newbery Medal has not been paying
>>attention.
>>
>>
>>
>
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Received on Fri 27 Jan 2006 12:39:46 PM CST
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 12:39:46 -0600
Well-said, Carole, as always you have articulated clearly the experience of many of us. Sue McGown St. John's School Houston, TX
Carole Fiore wrote:
>As someone who has had the opportunity during my long career to serve on the
>Newbery, Caldecott, and, most recently, on the first Geisel Award Committee,
>I must say that many of the individuals who serve on award committees
>purposely DO NOT look at advertising and try to avoid reading reviews of
>books that are under consideration while they are serving on the committee.
>These individuals are selected to serve on these committees because of their
>abilities to look at books critically and apply specific criteria for each
>award to the books of that one year. Many of those who serve on book award
>committees share the books under consideration with peers, parents, and
>children to help clarify their thoughts and opinions.
>
> Carole D. Fiore
>
>************************************************************************
>Carole D. Fiore
>Training and Library Consulting
>Author, Fiore's Summer Library Reading Program Handbook -- NOW AVAILABLE
>from Neal-Schuman
>cfiore at earthlink.net
>Phone and Fax: 850-656-8474
>************************************************************************
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: ccbc-net-bounces at ccbc.education.wisc.edu
>[mailto:ccbc-net-bounces at ccbc.education.wisc.edu] On Behalf Of Steward,
>Celeste
>Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 11:52 AM
>To: Meghan McCarthy; ccbc-net at ccbc.education.wisc.edu
>Subject: Re: [CCBC-Net] Criss Cross
>
>
>Well...I haven't thought as deeply on this issue as some folks here...but my
>inner 10-year old can't believe that D. Wiles' Each Little Bird That Sings
>didn't win an award...I adored that book...
>
>P.S. I do think marketing has a role in the award process, after all, few of
>us are immune to the power of advertising.
>
>Celeste Steward
>Collection Development Librarian, Children Services
>Alameda County Library
>2400 Stevenson Blvd.
>Fremont, CA 94538
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: ccbc-net-bounces at ccbc.education.wisc.edu
>[mailto:ccbc-net-bounces at ccbc.education.wisc.edu]On Behalf Of Meghan
>McCarthy
>Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 8:30 AM
>To: ccbc-net at ccbc.education.wisc.edu
>Subject: Re: [CCBC-Net] Criss Cross
>
>
>I did in fact notice that Criss Cross got starred
>reviews, etc. What I was trying to say is that the
>Caldecott winners are more obvious to the average
>public... more widely recognized.
>The author and illustrator of the The Hello, Goodbye
>Window have been in the mainstream media plenty. The
>buying public doesn't read the School Library Journal
>and has probably never heard of it. Ask any shopper if
>they've heard of Chris Raschka or at least recognizes
>his work and they'll say "yes." Ask them if they've
>heard of Lynne Rae Perkins and they'll say "no." I'm
>pretty in tune with the average public since I've
>worked at a bookstore for about 5 years.
>
>Every year since I've started working at B&N the same
>thing happens. We always have the Caldecott pick in
>stock or at least DID carry it at some point but never
>the Newbery. When I tell my coworkers the winners, who
>don't pay any attention to the industry like I do,
>they say "Oh, that one," to the Caldecott and they say
>"What book?" to the Newbery. IF the Newbery pick got
>written up in major newspapers or magazines, rest
>assured B&N would carry the book. IF the Newbery book
>got pushed by its publisher and got a large marketing
>campaign it would be carried at B&N. After all, the
>chain's bottom line is making money.
>
>What I am not saying is that the Caldecott picks are
>the most popular books out there. I sincerely doubt
>that a book like WALTER THE FARTING DOG will ever end
>up on the honor list. I also wasn't saying that this
>is a cold hard fact and that this happens EVERY SINGLE
>TIME. But I was saying that more often than not, the
>Caldecott winner is more known to the average person
>ahead of time than the Newbery... at least in recent
>years.
>
>I was just making an observation! That's all! I'm
>going back to lurkdome now....
>
>meghan
>author/illustrator/bookseller/who is trying not to be
>a trouble maker but likes to start conversation
>
>
>
>--- Kathleen Horning <horning at education.wisc.edu>
>wrote:
>
>
>
>>I think your observation perhaps says more about
>>Barnes & Noble and the
>>other large chain book stores than it does about the
>>award books.
>>
>>
>
>
>
>>"Criss Cross" got starred reviews in just about
>>every professional
>>journal, and was on several of the annual best books
>>lists, including
>>SLJ, Kirkus, Horn Book Fanfare, and the Book Sense
>>Picks from the
>>Independent Booksellers Association. Anyone who was surprised that it
>>won the Newbery Medal has not been paying
>>attention.
>>
>>
>>
>
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