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From: Judith Ridge <judithr>
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 18:40:40 +1000
Hi everyone,
Can anyone tell me if the ccbc-net archives available on the internet, and if so, how to find them? I'd like to share some of the thread on illustrated poetry with my colleagues.
I work on a children's literary magazine called The School Magazine here in Australia. (It's not unlike Cricket, which I'm sure you're all familiar with. School Magazine has been published by the Department of Education and Training in New South Wales since 1916 ad is published in four parts for children from reading interest ages 8+) We are arguably the biggest publisher of poetry for children in Australia (few commercial publishers tackle it) and the poetry is always illustrated, as are our stories, plays and non-fiction articles.
I'd fall on the side of those who view illustrating poetry akin to illustrating picture books - a good illustration can contribute to the reading of the poem, rather than impose meaning (or confuse it!). Our illustrators are amongst the best in the country - most of them are highly respected book illustrators (and most of them got their start at the Magazine). They occasionally get it "wrong", but when they get it right
(even if it's not what you expect) it's a wonderful thing. For instance, I recently used the "anonymous" poem that goes (something more or less like):
There was an old woman tossed up in a basket Seventeen times as high as the moon
(and I think I've forgotten a line or two about her carrying a broom) Old woman, old woman, old woman, quoth I Where are you going to up so high? To brush the cobwebs off the sky. Can I come with you? Aye, by and by.
When the illustrator, Kim Gamble, brought his painting in, he commented that to him, the poem was about death - the old woman was going to her death and the young observer would follow her "by and by". I'd read it as whimsical nonsense. He'd read it as something quite different - and his beautiful painting allowed for both readings - and no doubt many others.
Judith in Sydney
JUDITH RIDGE PO Box 1476 Ashfield NSW 1800 AUSTRALIA
0412 529 694
+61 2 9716 5084 (h)
+61 2 9889 0044 (w) The School Magazine
Children's book manuscript assessment Children's book reviewer Freelance writer and editor
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~judithr/ http://www.hotkey.net.au/~schmag/home.html
Received on Tue 22 Apr 2003 03:40:40 AM CDT
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 18:40:40 +1000
Hi everyone,
Can anyone tell me if the ccbc-net archives available on the internet, and if so, how to find them? I'd like to share some of the thread on illustrated poetry with my colleagues.
I work on a children's literary magazine called The School Magazine here in Australia. (It's not unlike Cricket, which I'm sure you're all familiar with. School Magazine has been published by the Department of Education and Training in New South Wales since 1916 ad is published in four parts for children from reading interest ages 8+) We are arguably the biggest publisher of poetry for children in Australia (few commercial publishers tackle it) and the poetry is always illustrated, as are our stories, plays and non-fiction articles.
I'd fall on the side of those who view illustrating poetry akin to illustrating picture books - a good illustration can contribute to the reading of the poem, rather than impose meaning (or confuse it!). Our illustrators are amongst the best in the country - most of them are highly respected book illustrators (and most of them got their start at the Magazine). They occasionally get it "wrong", but when they get it right
(even if it's not what you expect) it's a wonderful thing. For instance, I recently used the "anonymous" poem that goes (something more or less like):
There was an old woman tossed up in a basket Seventeen times as high as the moon
(and I think I've forgotten a line or two about her carrying a broom) Old woman, old woman, old woman, quoth I Where are you going to up so high? To brush the cobwebs off the sky. Can I come with you? Aye, by and by.
When the illustrator, Kim Gamble, brought his painting in, he commented that to him, the poem was about death - the old woman was going to her death and the young observer would follow her "by and by". I'd read it as whimsical nonsense. He'd read it as something quite different - and his beautiful painting allowed for both readings - and no doubt many others.
Judith in Sydney
JUDITH RIDGE PO Box 1476 Ashfield NSW 1800 AUSTRALIA
0412 529 694
+61 2 9716 5084 (h)
+61 2 9889 0044 (w) The School Magazine
Children's book manuscript assessment Children's book reviewer Freelance writer and editor
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~judithr/ http://www.hotkey.net.au/~schmag/home.html
Received on Tue 22 Apr 2003 03:40:40 AM CDT
